MMR And The Daily Mail – Archetypal Strawmen

23 Jun

In their continuing quest to establish MMR as evil in a syringe, the Daily Mail are turning increasingly to more and more blatant strawman fallacies.

In a recent article entitled *’We won’t allow MMR cover-up say parents of tragic toddlers’* , the Daily Mail reach new lows of journalism.

The parents of two healthy toddlers who died ten days after being given the controversial MMR jabs have warned the Government that they will not allow the cause of their deaths to be ‘covered up’.

Firstly, lets note that nowhere in any article I’ve read has the UK government attempted to ‘cover up’ the deaths of these two toddlers. The Daily Mail are inventing a conspiracy where none appears to exist. This will of course allow them to turn round when MMR is established _not_ to be the cause of death and scream ‘cover up!’ and ‘conspiracy!’ and ‘we told you so!’.

Lets further note that the MMR jab is only controversial to Daily Mail and Private Eye readers. I read a *lot* of non autism related, non vaccine related message boards/forums/newsgroups and whenever the issue comes up virtually nobody really believes the MMR causes autism, or is in any way ‘controversial’.

Doctors say they cannot explain why George Fisher and Anna Duncan, both aged 17 months, died in their sleep. But the children’s parents believe that the controversial triple jab – against measles, mumps and rubella – is to blame.

If this is a cover up then those Doc’s are really bad it it. Note that they’re being entirely honest and claiming that they cannot explain why these two kids died. Hell, they’re not even claiming the MMR _didn’t_ cause their deaths. I also note however, that no actual Doctors – and certainly not the Doctors who said they ‘couldn’t explain’ the deaths – are interviewed or quoted anywhere in this piece.

George’s mother, Sarah, said last week that despite repeated Government assurances the vaccine is safe,she and her husband were ‘100 per cent sure George was killed by MMR’.

Based on what?

The only indications of ill-health before the children died were that both showed signs of apparently minor reactions to their MMR jabs.

Minor reactions. My daughter had a reaction to her DTP – vomiting, fever – we panicked and took her to A&E where her fever settled almost immediately. At the time we were ‘100% sure’ that the DTP jab caused/triggered her autism but we’re not any more. Her reaction was, relatively speaking, fairly innocuous and it sounds liek these two kids reactions were too. Minor reactions don’t lead to death.

And Anna’s father, John, said he and his wife would ‘never forgive themselves’ for not paying privately for single jabs and for believing Government assurances that MMR was safe. _They now believe that the doctors should have spotted and warned of the dangers_. Mr Duncan said that, having conducted extensive research since Anna’s death, he and his wife, who is a nurse, considered it possible that their daughter had died ‘as a result of a catastrophic reaction to the vaccine’. He said: ‘Six days after her jab, Anna developed purple spots on her body and bouts of high temperature. ‘_We read only later that these were side-effects of MMR to watch out for. ‘If we had been properly warned we would have taken her for medical help sooner. But the risks of vaccines are just never mentioned. ‘Anna had been exposed to an outbreak of chickenpox in our village just before her jab, which we mentioned, and had a runny nose, which means she really shouldn’t have been injected with MMR at that point._ ‘Parents should be better informed about the risks and the choice of single jabs should be available to all parents through the NHS.’

So now we get to the meat of the matter. Despite the Mail doing their best to muddy the time line it now seems that this child was ill prior to receiving her MMR, which they didn’t know was something to look out for despite this information being freely available on the NHS Direct website, they then let her have the MMR which she had a minor reaction to nearly a week after the injection (which is also noted and discussed at NHSDirect) and she then tragically died. Her parents then decided that this previously categorised ‘minor reaction’ was in actual fact a ‘catastrophic reaction’ and that it was the Governments fault for engendering a conspiracy of silence over the MMR.

The idea of a government conspiracy to keep the potential dangers of the MMR vaccine quiet is fallacious in the extreme given that the information exists on the leading healthcare website in the UK. Its not even hard to find – simply go to the home page and type ‘MMR’ into the search engine.

Its also fallacious, given the time line established to claim that the MMR is at fault here. Medical wisdom is clear that vaccines should not be given to kids who have been ill. If her parents didn’t tell the person administering the vaccine this fact then they bear part of the responsibility. If they _did_ tell the administering nurse she’d been ill then the Practice concerned should be held accountable and punished.

The MMR is not at fault here. The issue is that an illness that could trigger a bad reaction was not identified prior to administering the MMR.

This is not the first time (and I’m sure it won’t be the last) that the Daily Mail attempt to seriously mislead people over the MMR vaccine. They have lost all sense of responsibility over the issue, mainly because they have invested so much time and ink into the matter. With breathtaking arrogance and irresponsibility, the end of this article, states that:

The failure of the Government’s campaign was demonstrated last week when figures showed that because so many parents are spurning MMR, Britain is now in the grip of the biggest measles outbreak since the vaccine’s introduction in 1988.

Has the government campaign failed? Probably. They did a poor job at getting the truth out but lets not pretend that rags like the Mail didn’t play a significant part in causing this measles outbreak. They share the responsibility. Its time for them to grow up and stop jumping at shadows.

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88 Responses to “MMR And The Daily Mail – Archetypal Strawmen”

  1. john June 28, 2006 at 19:10 #

    “some people may have died as an associated result of an adverse reaction.2

    That is a classic , you should work for the medical industry. If they trod on your toe and caused an infection which you died from, they would say “some people may have died as an associated result of an adverse reaction to stepping on your toe”. Never say caused, and adverse reaction is another euphanism for caused.

    “Good sources, unbiased and without an agenda to promote are convincing.”

    If you can find any let me know, I am unbiased as I don’t have a vaccine damaged kid, or make any money off medicine. Whereas all of your sources spokespeople or article authors take money from the vaccine industry usually in the form of “grants” like Dr Elliman.

    Yet when you actually meet a truly unbiased source of info, you can’t accept it because you have a need to believe MMR is safe. I can understand that if you have an autistic child. But every day this drug is on the market means more kids ending up autistic.

  2. clone3g June 28, 2006 at 19:51 #

    I can understand that if you have an autistic child. But every day this drug is on the market means more kids ending up autistic.

    Well that’s true. Every day Lemon Pledge is on the market more kids are diagnosed too.

    If you truly believe MMR causes autism, and I’m quite certain you do, explain how.

    You’ve got that big ol’ unbiased website full of links and articles so you shouldn’t have any trouble walking us through it in one or two paragraphs.

    How does MMR cause autism John?

  3. Kev June 28, 2006 at 21:30 #

    _”If they trod on your toe and caused an infection which you died from, they would say “some people may have died as an associated result of an adverse reaction to stepping on your toe”. Never say caused, and adverse reaction is another euphanism for caused.”_

    Accuracy matters to people john – except random nutters with quack sites, obviously. I expect you believe that McDonalds murder overweight people too.

    _”If you can find any let me know,”_

    I agree your site could use them :)

    _”I am unbiased as I don’t have a vaccine damaged kid, or make any money off medicine.”_

    No, you just have the rest of the lunatic fringe to represent.

    _”Yet when you actually meet a truly unbiased source of info, you can’t accept it because you have a need to believe MMR is safe. I can understand that if you have an autistic child. But every day this drug is on the market means more kids ending up autistic.”_

    Didn’t you know thats part of my dastardly plan?

    Sorry john, its really not possible to take you seriously.

    Bad things happen to good people john. There’s plenty of honest-to-goodness screwups perpetrated by people in power. There’s no need to invent conspiracy theories on top of that fact.

    The kids that died is a real tragedy. I feel very sorry for their parents, siblings and family. But we cannot be divorced from the reality. The reality is that these kids probably shouldn’t have had their shots when they did. That they did is the responsibility of the practice. They should be punished.

    However, that’s not the fault of the MMR itself and neither is the Gvmnt involved in any conspiracy to cover it up.

    Never underestimate the power of human error john.

  4. john June 28, 2006 at 21:33 #

    How isn’t really an interest of mine, but you can read what some of the independent experts think, yourself http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr58.html

    “As a clinician, my current belief which guides my practice with these children is that any child given the HepB vaccination at birth and subsequent boosters along with DPT has received unacceptable levels of neurotoxin in the form of the ethyl mercury in the thimerosal preservative used in the vaccine. In any child with a genetic immune susceptibility (probably about one in six) this sets off a series of events that injure the brain-gut-immune system. By the time they are ready to receive the MMR vaccination, their immune system is so impaired in a great number of these children that the triple vaccine cannot be handled by the now dysfunctional immune system and they begin their obvious descent into the autistic spectrum disorder.”—Jaquelyn McCandless, M.D

    “V. Singh,MDM, a specialist from Utah State who has studied over 400 cases of autism, found that these children had experienced an autoimmune episode, in which their own bodies had been made to attack the linings of their nervous systems. Dr. Singh characterized the epidemic as a “hyperimmune response to the measles virus.” He stated that 55% of the families said that autism appeared soon after an MMR shot, and that 33% of families said it appeared soon after a DPT shot. Such neurologic damage is a well-established side-effect of the mercury, aluminum, and formaldehyde used in these vaccines.”—Tim O’Shea, DC

    “Autism may be a disorder linked to the disruption of the G-alpha protein, affecting retinoid receptors in the brain. A study of sixty autistic children suggests that autism may be caused by inserting a G-alpha protein defect, the pertussis toxin found in the D.P.T. vaccine, into genetically at-risk children.”—Mary N. Megson, M.D., F.A.A.P. http://home.att.net/~pediatricaac/

    While you are at it read Miller’s letter to Ellimans measles letter http://www.whale.to/a/miller_h.html and look at his measles deaths graph, and tell me why you think measles vaccination got rid of measles deaths?

    “I would also be particularly interested to learn of any documented cases of completely unvaccinated children who have later dramatically and inexplicably regressed into autism after a normal infancy. To date, no such case has ever been identified to me.”–David Thrower

    Several of the participants tried to imply that autism was a genetic disorder and therefore could have nothing to do with vaccines. Dr. Weil put that to rest with this comment, “We don’t see that kind of genetic change in 30 years.” In other words, how can we suddenly see a 300% increase in a genetically related disorder over such a short period? It is also known that there are two forms of autism, one that is apparent at birth and one that develops later in childhood. The former has not changed in incidence since statistics have been kept; the other is epidemic. THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP By Russell Blaylock, M.D. http://www.whale.to/a/blaylock.html

  5. HN June 28, 2006 at 21:45 #

    By the way, John has already been told many of the things brought up on this thread.

    For instance… the Japan bit — it has been pointed out that the UK uses a different MMR and that Japan had more deaths due to the actual disease:

    http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_frm/thread/84b8e3e047430634/c6e1be34e61a4d5d?&hl=en#c6e1be34e61a4d5d

    … but he still brings it up.

    Just ignore him.

  6. john June 29, 2006 at 08:18 #

    “Just ignore him.”

    best idea if you have no argument http://www.whale.to/v/mmrjapan1.html

  7. Kev June 29, 2006 at 08:44 #

    John – you’re teetering on the edge of becoming boring. Are you prepared to debate with good sources? From now on, all links in your answers to whale.to will be removed.

  8. john June 29, 2006 at 17:03 #

    “debate with good sources?”

    whale is the largest source of anti-vaccine material (ie the opposing argument) on the internet, so we can expect you to make some spurious excuse to ignore it. It has 30 smallpox books in their entirety that demolish vaccination from the bottom, how are they not a good source, the orginal books!? And the great statistic that demolished measles vaccination came from the gov’s own CD, yet you want the gov to extract that info onto a bit of paper with their name at the top so you can accept it–they haven’t done it yet, and you would hardly expect them to make available a statistic that demolishes their argument, and yours.

    “Good source” is just another in the long line of spurious excuses and logical fallacies I get from people who pretend to be open minded but are in reality medical industry devotees.

    If MMR was so great why do you feel the need to attack it’s critics, it betrays some psychological need to believe in it. It sure is boring dealing with people who pretend to be open minded, but aren’t. And defending a killer vaccine doesn’t do much for all the kids down the line, compounded by the fact it if 100% ineffective as that stat proves.

  9. Kev June 29, 2006 at 17:19 #

    Here’s the truth john- your site is a joke. It contains antisemitic material as well as thousands of conspiracy theories and quackery. I’m sure that they all mean something to you but to the rest of the world you’re just a kook with ‘interesting’ beliefs.

    You have a morbid kind of novelty value, of that there’s no doubt but like most novelty values, its short lived, easy to see through and ultimately…dull.

    I’m going to take your previous rant as a ‘no’ you can’t debate with decent sources. Maybe the Illuminati can drop some off with you the next time our Lizard Overlords do a flyby from PLanet X.

  10. john June 29, 2006 at 17:50 #

    Thanks, I was getting bored. I knew from day one you weren’t after the Truth, I just am researching the ways brainwashed people deny that fact, it is called rationalisation And I also like to see if anyone can come up with some comment I haven’t come across before.

    Your lord vaccine is a Naked Emperor. Enjoy him while he still has his clothes on. I can understand why you don’t want to see him naked!

  11. Kev June 29, 2006 at 18:33 #

    _”Your lord vaccine is a Naked Emperor”_

    So that’s two little pricks on display then?

  12. john June 29, 2006 at 19:22 #

    As I tell my kids, “see yourself in others”

    I wouldn’t have put it like that, but you know yourself better.

    cheers!

  13. Kev June 29, 2006 at 20:12 #

    Damn john, your comebacks are as unimaginative as your website. Here’s a tip for you: ‘I know you are but what am I?’ is only popular in playgrounds.

  14. Dave Seidel June 30, 2006 at 00:05 #

    john and all the other tin-foil-hat-wearing anti-vaxxers must *love* the news that the Gates Foundation will be getting 37 billion dollars from Warren Buffet, which will allow them to double their yearly spending, much of which goes to vaccination programs. Maybe john would approve of their work if they came up with a vaccine against giant lizards masquerading as humans.

  15. Jonathan Semetko June 30, 2006 at 02:01 #

    Wait this is that John from Whale.to?

    Really? Oh wow….To think I almost missed this thread.

    Well John it is pleasure to meet you, I have picked some of the most interesting things you have emitted on this site to talk about.

    “If MMR was so great why do you feel the need to attack it’s critics, it betrays some psychological need to believe in it.”

    Oh wow….you managed to get an enthymeme and a psychogenetic fallacy wrapped up into a single sentence. The enthyeme for the unstated premise implying that we are in denial over the MMR and psychogentic fallacy for the little but of sophistry on our psychological needs.

    “It sure is boring dealing with people who pretend to be open minded, but aren’t.”

    Man ain’t that the truth. Although what is even worse is talking with someone who is so open minded their brains have fallen out. Just on the side I want to mention that present company is accepted of course.

    Quoting Dr. Blaylock:

    “Several of the participants tried to imply that autism was a genetic disorder and therefore could have nothing to do with vaccines. Dr. Weil put that to rest with this comment, “We don’t see that kind of genetic change in 30 years.”

    Argument from authority, no points this round. Also, this assumes a reliable source for identifying that change. That may not be a very good idea.

    “In other words, how can we suddenly see a 300% increase in a genetically related disorder over such a short period?”

    Oh he means we were measuring the same thing over time and that is how we got the 300% increase? Is that right?

    “It is also known that there are two forms of autism, one that is apparent at birth and one that develops later in childhood. The former has not changed in incidence since statistics have been kept; the other is epidemic.”

    Amazingly this is not shown by any controlled epidemiology anywhere. I love creative fiction, but I prefer to keep fiction and epidemiology separate (darn hard to do sometimes).

    This quote seems to reflect the excellence that I have to expect of your site John.

  16. David N. Andrews BA-status, PgCertSpEd (pending) June 30, 2006 at 04:58 #

    Jonathan!!!

    Nice to see you, young sir! :)

  17. century June 30, 2006 at 11:10 #

    John said

    “While you are at it read Miller’s letter to Ellimans measles letter http://www.whale.to/a/miller_h.html and look at his measles deaths graph, and tell me why you think measles vaccination got rid of measles deaths?”

    (The graph comes from the Office for National Statistics 20th Century- mortality statistics.)

    Instead of answering or addressing the question posed, John was subjected to a vitriolic attack.

    Some might say this speaks volumes.

    Century

  18. Kev June 30, 2006 at 12:00 #

    century – john was asked to provide _source_ stats instead of relying on second or third hand data. I’m not keen on chinese-whispered data.

    This maintained a pattern throughout john’s visits. Badly sourced data, presented as fact.

    When one is able to see the original source, then one can examine it and come to their own conclusions.

    john was never able to provide _anything_ that didn’t come from his own personal quackery site or that of his friends. At no point was anything approaching science put forward. After awhile it gets really boring asking the same question over and over.

    Some might say his inability to provide a decent source for his claims speaks volumes.

  19. Jonathan Semetko June 30, 2006 at 19:38 #

    Hi David,

    Nice to be back.

  20. Jonathan Semetko June 30, 2006 at 19:39 #

    Century quotes John:

    “While you are at it read Miller’s letter to Ellimans measles letter http://www.whale.to/a/miller_h.html and look at his measles deaths graph, and tell me why you think measles vaccination got rid of measles deaths?”

    And then writes:

    “Instead of answering or addressing the question posed, John was subjected to a vitriolic attack.”

    Century, perhaps you have observed that a number of persons here have criticized the validity of these sources. Justly so, here is a quote from that, letter John cites:

    “And what about the ridiculous problems you have created for children in parts of the world like India who develop nut allergies when nuts are staple diet? What are they to eat – if they have not been killed first? And please do not tell me they always had nut allergies in those parts of the world – they did not.”

    The author is assuming what he is trying to prove and using version of circular logic called “begging the question” to do so.

    All that aside, okay….I will bite, and answer John’s specific question in relation to his quote.

    No, I do not think that the measles vaccine got rid of measles death in the same way other unspecified factors have. However, I think that the vaccine played a role in maintaining the low rate of measles death that was already in sway due to better health care.

    I am stating that measles vaccination may help prevent the occasional and probable epidemics of measles that occur when a disease is endemic in a population.

    Not forgetting that a review of measles cases, as opposed to measles mortality, will reveal that the introduction of the vaccine preceded a notable change in the rate of the decline in cases.

    Not forgetting that an epidemic of measles occurred in the US in 89-91 with 123 persons losing their lives, the majority being unvaccinated pre-school aged minority children.

    Not forgetting that measles still kills 2,500 per 10,000 (25%) of those afflicted by it in developing countries.

    Not forgetting that measles still kills 10-20 per 10,000 of those afflicted by it in developed countries.

    Not forgetting that death is not the only bad outcome possible from measles as 6-12 persons per 10,000 have seizures as a result.

    Some might say that Century’s failure to address our criticism of the sources speaks volumes.

  21. century July 2, 2006 at 11:19 #

    JS said

    “No, I do not think that the measles vaccine got rid of measles death in the same way other unspecified factors have. However, I think that the vaccine played a role in maintaining the low rate of measles death that was already in sway due to better health care.

    and

    “Not forgetting that measles still kills 2,500 per 10,000 (25%) of those afflicted by it in developing countries.”

    Ho hum!

    So what do delevolping countries need? – Better healthcare? no give them vaccines! Or better still, SELL them vaccines – even better if they are the redundant strains not used in the west.

    Century

  22. Kev July 2, 2006 at 12:08 #

    _”So what do delevolping countries need? – Better healthcare? no give them vaccines! Or better still, SELL them vaccines – even better if they are the redundant strains not used in the west.”_

    That’s a totally unrelated argument.

    I agree with you that we should be supplying better healthcare but they also need vaccines. Preferably supplied not sold.

  23. Jonathan Semetko July 2, 2006 at 17:43 #

    Century!

    I had thought you left us. Anyway, nice to here from you.

    “So what do delevolping countries need? – Better healthcare? no give them vaccines! Or better still, SELL them vaccines – even better if they are the redundant strains not used in the west.”

    (raises hand) Oh, oh, I know pick me!…..We need to provide better healthcare to help developing countries get their measles mortality rate low and then vaccines to help keep it low in the absnce of which, we are likely to see occasional epidemics which will namely target the non-vaccinated.

  24. century July 2, 2006 at 19:21 #

    JS said

    1.”Not forgetting that an epidemic of measles occurred in the US in 89-91 with 123 persons losing their lives, the majority being unvaccinated pre-school aged minority children.”

    and

    2.”we are likely to see occasional epidemics which will namely target the non-vaccinated.”

    Q1 – Do you have the exact % of vaccinated vs unvaccinated – for those who died – in the 89-91 outbreak?

    Q2 – do you have any evidence to show that well nourished healthy individuals will be “targetted”

    Century

    ps – Jonathan, I have not left but just lurking and biding my time

  25. HN July 2, 2006 at 20:15 #

    90% of the fatal cases were for those with no history of vaccination.

    From page 10 of http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/meas.pdf:

    Begin Quote
    A total of 123 measles-associated deaths were reported
    (death-to-case ratio of 2.2 per 1,000 cases). Forty-nine percent of deaths were among children younger than 5 years of age. Ninety percent of fatal cases occurred among persons with no history of vaccination. Sixty-four deaths were reported in 1990, the largest annual number of deaths from measles since 1971.

    The most important cause of the measles resurgence of
    1989–1991 was low vaccination coverage. Measles vaccine
    coverage was low in many cities, including some that
    experienced large outbreaks among preschool-aged children
    throughout the early to mid-1980s. Surveys in areas experiencing outbreaks among preschool-aged children indicated that as few as 50% of children had been vaccinated against measles by their second birthday, and that black and Hispanic children were less likely to be age-appropriately vaccinated than were white children.
    End Quote

  26. HN July 2, 2006 at 20:27 #

    There is more information about measles outbreaks here:

    http://www.cdc.gov/nip/diseases/measles/history.htm#outbreaks

    Usually the main theme is that it happens when vaccination levels go down. There are those that the vaccine does not work for, so yes… they will get measles.

  27. century July 2, 2006 at 21:07 #

    HN said

    “From page 10 of http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/meas.pdf:”

    This link does not work for me.
    Should it say measles.pdf after the last / ?

    Century

  28. David N. Andrews BA-status, PgCertSpEd (pending) July 2, 2006 at 21:22 #

    Century…. click the link again, and when it fails to open, just back-delete the : after the .pdf extension…. should get it then….

  29. Jonathan Semetko July 2, 2006 at 23:50 #

    Hi Century,

    No problem re: the lurking.

    HN already got the quotes and source I was going to cite.

  30. HN July 3, 2006 at 01:11 #

    So I can’t type… sorry:

    http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/meas.pdf

  31. Anti MMR July 5, 2006 at 19:12 #

    John,
    Thank you for all your information…I support you and your research 100%. To me everything you have quoted and stated is accurate and founded.

    I too get frustrated with small minded people who do not think outside of the box…If the MMR was so safe where are the pictures of Tony Blair getting Leo innoculated…simple because he got Leo the single vaccine. But hey this country can’t afford to give everyone the single vacine so lets brain wash the nation.

    Please keep the information coming…

  32. Kev July 5, 2006 at 19:29 #

    One thing I’ve often wondered about whale.to – why is its logo devices a pair of Orca’s. If I remember correctly they’re mammals aren’t they? Not actually whale’s at all.

    I guess that’s indicative of the rest of John’s ‘research’.

  33. Kev July 5, 2006 at 21:04 #

    Then again, whales are mammals too.

    memo to self: open mouth, insert foot, close mouth.

  34. HN July 5, 2006 at 21:07 #

    Kev, both orcas and whales are mammals. Except, while orcas are often called “killer whales”, they are actually very large dolphins:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca

  35. HN July 5, 2006 at 22:04 #

    More about the whale.to site (yes, it is an archived website, but the information is still valid):

    http://web.archive.org/web/20040617011934/pages.ivillage.com/vaccinesupport/antivaxsites/whale.html

    It has this summary: “Since being involved in vaccine debate, I have seen multiple references to the Whale.to site who’s webmaster, John, has accumulated a large amount of information – all anti-vaccine. I have to admit that I do typically ignore any links to the whale.to website now. This website is basically a repository for unsubstantiated misinformation that is deposited without any regard to validity. The majority of the information on the website do not list references and there are a large number of quotes from various sources that state opinion and not necessarily fact. Some of the information is supposedly supported by scientific references, but when one has access to the actual scientific literature, it becomes evident that the references are misused and misquoted.”

  36. HN July 9, 2006 at 20:30 #

    Recently all references to John’s whale.to website have been removed from Wikepedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:MMR_vaccine#w_hale_-dot-_to_link

  37. Kev July 9, 2006 at 22:22 #

    Thanks for the info HN.

    Not surprising in any way – he’s a fool.

  38. adoc July 10, 2006 at 20:29 #

    High fever plus blue blotches. Sounds like septicaemia with Meningococcus. Very lethal.

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