Comments on: Andrew Wakefield backs down

By: Brian Deer

Brian Deer — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:52:14 +0000

Hope y’all will forgive me for sharing my latest news.

http://briandeer.com/wakefield/lawsuit-deer.htm

and

http://briandeer.com/wakefield.....anings.htm

You probably think I’m somewhat single-minded, but I think all will become clear in due course.

By: anonimouse

anonimouse — Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:19:09 +0000

I just hope that none of you have a child who changes overnight (literally) following the MMR. I now have to deal with the fact that my son is disabled for life with autism. The MMR did that. I knew that long before Mr. Wakefield aired his thoughts. I donâ€™t care what anyone says, whether it be Andrew Wakefield or anyone else. There IS a link. Where I live, there is proof! My borough has the highest national rate of autism in children â€“ which can be pinpointed! I donâ€™t need so called â€˜expertsâ€™. I know that the MMR took my son away and replaced him with a different, autistic child. Since the MMR, every day has been a battle in one way or another. Argue all you like, I am living with the truth, and I know plenty of others who are too. Until you have been as hugely and irrevocably affected by this as parents like me, struggling to cope with what we have been left with, you cannot and should not comment.

Considering that the incubation period for the attenuated viruses in MMR is upwards of a week, assuming that changes happened overnight is a bit much.

Of course, commenting on that wold ruin your chances of cashing in – er, getting help for your child.

By: CP

CP — Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:35:01 +0000

I just hope that none of you have a child who changes overnight (literally) following the MMR. I now have to deal with the fact that my son is disabled for life with autism. The MMR did that. I knew that long before Mr. Wakefield aired his thoughts. I don’t care what anyone says, whether it be Andrew Wakefield or anyone else. There IS a link. Where I live, there is proof! My borough has the highest national rate of autism in children – which can be pinpointed! I don’t need so called ‘experts’. I know that the MMR took my son away and replaced him with a different, autistic child. Since the MMR, every day has been a battle in one way or another. Argue all you like, I am living with the truth, and I know plenty of others who are too. Until you have been as hugely and irrevocably affected by this as parents like me, struggling to cope with what we have been left with, you cannot and should not comment.

By: Kev

Kev — Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:22:47 +0000

True.

By: Ms. Clark

Ms. Clark — Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:12:34 +0000

Jonathan, Kirby said that autism would drop in 2005 on video, besides allegedly to the NYT reporters. Kev blogged it here. It wasn’t just one time.

By: Kev

Kev — Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:10:33 +0000

I wonder who that could be? ;o)

By: Jonathan Semetko

Jonathan Semetko — Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:46:45 +0000

Kev,

This is off topic, but have you been on AW recently. Check out Kirby thread. Apparently, being like you is an insult now.

Check out one of our mutual friends accusing me of such:

“And do you have any other instance where Kirby’s in dispute with anyone else over a minute detail? I could understand if he had several occasions where the content of a quote was in question, but 1 time? Please find something else to harp on, Kevin Jr.”

By: laurentius-rex

laurentius-rex — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:32:34 +0000

The truth is that Wakefield is a moneyed man, as an NHS consultant he was already a moneyed man and part of the same economic and social class as the directors of “Big Pharma”. He lives and moves in that same world of moneyed men which the likes of me do not have access to.

As a moneyed man (and now it is alleged just how rich he may have become from all this) he can afford to use lawsuits in the same way that Maxwell and sir Elton John and Lord Archer used lawsuits to suppress the truth.

Lord Archer as we know was convicted of perjury, Sir Elton John, now openly acknowledges he is gay, and as for Maxwell it is a pity he did not care for his posthumous reputation as much as he cared for it while he was alive.

Let us hope that the moneyed man, acknowledges the futility of his position and gives up with good grace while there is still time for him, let us hope he turns out to be a man of honour and not a made man, (apologies for the Sicilian references)

By: Ms Clark

Ms Clark — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:41:24 +0000

Maybe his defense will be, “But he’s tall and gorgeous, he has to be right. And they did a tv docudrama on him and everything…” The last time I checked the EoHarm and a couple other biomed boards, no one is talking about Wakefield’s withdrawal of his lawsuit. Either bad news travels slow or someone is working really hard on how to spin this one.

I wonder if they will be closing Thoughtful House… Dr. Kartzinel just quit TH and moved back to Florida leaving Jepson to handle his patients that don’t want to go to Florida, I guess.

Hmmm. Surely Kartzinel’s quitting TH is just a coincidence… or maybe it’s like a rat abandoning a sickening ship… Also, Kartzinel is not going back to where Bradstreet is in FL, which is where he was before moving to Texas.

By: Friend in California

Friend in California — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 05:01:45 +0000

“I wonder what his supporters will find as an excuse for this hasty change of mind?”

Okay, here it is (let’s see if the response is verbatim, or simply similar to this):
“Well, of course the esteemed Dr. Wakefield withdrew his claim. How can one man, no matter how courageous or pioneering, withstand the withering assault perpetrated against him by the indescribably evil pharmaco/governmental complex? Dr. Wakefield is a martyr! Where do I send my donation to his legal fund?”
What do you think? Am I close?