The rate of autism in non-vaccinated communities is a far cry lower than that in communities that vaccinate. That’s long gone been accepted.

Well, it’s been accepted by a small minority of people who read Dan Olmsted news articles and, now, blog posts.

I don’t have the time and energy to go through your entire post. Once people start posting falsehoods, why bother with the rest? You started in your first few sentences with the idea that unvaccinated have less autism (if that were known, why would people be calling for the study?) and moved right along.

I said because of people like Jenny, meaning people who tell the world about the lack of safety in vaccines, changes have been made in the vaccines. Want proof? Fine. I had to do all the research because I use to support vaccines and even vaccinated my first child. I did the research to prove non-vaccinating parents that they were wrong. Instead, I discovered I was wrong. So here’s you a link that will support that (a) there is a higher rate of autism among vaccinated persons as a direct result of vaccines containing mercury, (b) vaccines were changed because of their dangerous content, (c) the change in the vaccines brought about a 35% decline in the autism rate among vaccinated children and (d) the safety of vaccines is a serious question since adverse reactions are “vastly under-reported”. With basic simple logic it can thus be concluded that (e) non-vaccinating communities have a lower autism rate since the increase was caused by the vaccines to begin with. Just a few quotes. Feel free to read the entire article.

From Medical News Today Autism Rates Drop After Mercury Removed From Childhood Vaccines “An article in the March 10, 2006 issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the alarming increase in reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not only stopped, but actually dropped sharply – by as much as 35%”

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated, as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines administered there after it documented a 700-fold increase in that state alone. California followed suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to children in this number of vaccines would be an amount 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

Between 1989 and 2003, there has been an explosion of autism. The incidence of autism (and other related disorders) went from about 1 in 2,500 children to 1 in every 166. Currently there are more than a half million children in the U.S. that have autism. This disorder has devastated families.

What was that you said again? Oh yeah, “Your belief that posting incorrect information (whether you got it from someplace or created it yourself), yes.” And accusing me of posting “falsehoods.” This information, from anon-biased medical news reporting source using government stats and info from the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons took me less than sixty seconds to find.

When she represents herself, she can swear like a sailor (and has) for all I care. When she purports to represent the “autism community” she can keep a lid on it.

I was not meaning to say it was okay for her to swear. I personally do not swear. I was simply meaning to state that I understand why she would. I had a doctor tell me for 2 years my child could hear and refused to send him to a specialist. Turned out he was actually 95% deaf. I had a couple other doctors tell me my son didn’t have any other problems and accuse me of MBP. Turned out that after eight years of fighting, I was right. My son has Asperger’s. I understand why she’d want to swear at a doctor that would tell her she didn’t know her own child. When I get angry, frustration and upset. We all have our ways of getting things out of our systems. Her way of freeing her frustration is cursing (not the most lady like thing to do…).

A friend’s daughter was given that vaccine that was suppose to protect babies from some intestinal ailment. Her daughter was one of the thousands whose kidneys shut down and nearly died as a direct result.

Can you point us all to a reliable source that “thousands” of babies are having their kidneys shut down due to vaccinations?

I have to research the name of the vaccine. It was in the late 1990’s. Her doctor told her the large number of harmed children. She was given a settlement, along with the other families of the harmed children. Her daughter was among the worse. The kidney transplants were rare. Most of them had their kidneys start functioning with medical intervention. A large number were left with permanent damage. Within a couple months it was on the news the vaccine had been discontinued due to kidney damage in children. I will have to research the name. I’ve lost contact with the friend and can’t simply ask.

I noticed you didn’t mention my retarded cousin. Her family is one that receives money from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program for the damages done to her from the vaccines. Oh, wait, I’m sure this program is something I created. I mean, vaccines are too safe for there to be a need for such a program.

The rate of autism in non-vaccinated communities is a far cry lower than that in communities that vaccinate. That’s long gone been accepted.

Well, it’s been accepted by a small minority of people who read Dan Olmsted news articles and, now, blog posts.

So what. Jenny use a bad word. Well, yeah, good for her. Her child was hurt and as the mother of a special needs child, I understand how she feels when people tell her that she doesn’t know her own child and that she doesn’t when her child change

When she represents herself, she can swear like a sailor (and has) for all I care. When she purports to represent the “autism community” she can keep a lid on it.

A friend’s daughter was given that vaccine that was suppose to protect babies from some intestinal ailment. Her daughter was one of the thousands whose kidneys shut down and nearly died as a direct result.

Can you point us all to a reliable source that “thousands” of babies are having their kidneys shut down due to vaccinations?

I don’t have the time and energy to go through your entire post. Once people start posting falsehoods, why bother with the rest? You started in your first few sentences with the idea that unvaccinated have less autism (if that were known, why would people be calling for the study?) and moved right along.

You even conclude with a totally unsupported statement:

It’s because of people like Jenny that your vaccines are safer now and will continue to become even more safe. Aren’t you glad SHE’S looking out for YOUR children?

Huh?

What substantial change has happened in vaccines due to the actions of Jenny McCarthy?

Keep in mind, I am not berating you. Your ideas, yes. Your belief that posting incorrect information (whether you got it from someplace or created it yourself), yes. You, no.

Have a nice day.

Both sides can argue all they want, but there are a few facts that cannot be disputed. In the U.S. the medical community told us for years and years that live vaccines were safe. There was a group of people who argued that they were not safe and that killed vaccines should be used instead. A lot of people fighting for this change were/are against vaccines personally, but wanted the ones being used to at least be safe.

All the talk shows had medical professionals on to say that the lay people were wrong.

Well, guess what? After over a DECADE of the medical community telling us we were idiots, it came out that live vaccines were indeed dangerous and that killed vaccines were much safer. That was the exact same thing WE’D been saying while they told us we didn’t know what we were talking about.

The mercury content has been lowered the same way. WE didn’t know what we were talking about because the medical community said it was a safe level. You know, until they finally figured out it WASN’T a safe level and that kids were being hurt.

Look, Dr. Salk, known as the Father of Vaccines, spent the last ten years of his life saying that there were too many vaccines and that vaccines should only be used in during times of outbreak lest A-typical versions be created.

We had an outbreak of whooping cough in my area 1 1/2 years ago. All those vaccinated children were being mis-diagnosed with allergies and asthma and put on unneccesary medications. There was also an outbreak in England with the same misdiagnosis. In our area the strange cough no on could diagnose started in early October. I got it in January (I’m fully vaccinated). One child got it in late Feb, the other three in March. We were in the ER with doctors telling us how their own children had had it and they couldn’t identify it.

Finally my doctor suggested checking for whooping cough. VOILA! The health dept was THRILLED someone finally figured it out.

My point? That our children are the only non-vaccinated ones in our school system. They were the LAST ones to get it. And they had the most mild cases. They didn’t get it from us, we got it from them. The vaccines don’t even work anyway!

I don’t care if other people want to vaccinate. I truly don’t. If I lived in an area where I could pick and choose, I’d get my children the tetnus shot. Unfortunately, if I do that they have to get everything. I’ve seen first hand the dangers vaccines pose. My cousin was PERFECTLY normal…until they started vaccinating her. She had severe convulsions and lost her fine motor skills. She stopped crawling, making noises, etc, within days of her vaccines. She is now severely retarded and needs 24/7 care for the rest of her life.

A friend’s daughter was given that vaccine that was suppose to protect babies from some intestinal ailment. Her daughter was one of the thousands whose kidneys shut down and nearly died as a direct result. My friend had to give her SIX MONTH OLD INFANT part of one her kidneys so the baby wouldn’t die. Got that? Her daughter had to have a kidney transplant at the age of six months because of a vaccine that the medical community said was safe. The vaccine was pulled within a few months.

Vaccines are NOT as safe as they want you to believe. They never have been. There is proof that the medical community has been wrong about their safety many times.

So what. Jenny use a bad word. Well, yeah, good for her. Her child was hurt and as the mother of a special needs child, I understand how she feels when people tell her that she doesn’t know her own child and that she doesn’t when her child change.

Instead of berating those out there, you should be supporting them. It’s only because of people like Jenny that the medical community is held to check at all. It is because of people like Jenny your vaccines are killed version instead of the more dangerous live versions. It is becaue of people like Jenny your vaccines have lower mercury levels.

It’s because of people like Jenny that your vaccines are safer now and will continue to become even more safe. Aren’t you glad SHE’S looking out for YOUR children?

One thing for sure, it should not be mandated what people should put inside their body.

Trust me i have done my research….there is a difference between calling something that is used in prelim stages of prepping a drug, vaccines and actually having those things in there…those are ingredients….materials used for getting by products or preping medias for growth, ARE NOT INGREDIENTS

My DD got all those vaccines too, so did many of my friend’s childrens, so did every baby in my family. Your daughter is still alive and I hope she has a long and healthy life but the fact that your friend’s friend baby died doesn’t prove that vaccines killed him or her…..I am sorry for her loss but don’t name the killer before you are sure what you are saying.

You might wanna look into the fact that chelation has actually killed children. Go try find it online b/c if i give you the link you might be saying biased link b/c you dont trust the source.

The fact that millions of babies don’t die every year is because we have vaccines. Go read the results from 11 infants dieing in a Hospital setting from diptheria a few years ago…a week ago the results were published, all 11 got Purtussis from a nurse in hospital, and DIED. I bet those parents won’t like what you have to say about vaccines. The fact that 50% of infants die of purtussis after getting it from MOM and DAD, another portion who die get it from grandparents, healthworkers and daycare workers….to you it might be all useless information but to me it just shows you as an adult can be most dangerous to your young child who is still in process of being vaccinated or selected by parents to not be vaccinated at all (based on misleading information from everywhere but where it needs to come from)...you can give purtussis to your child while breastfeeding from a cough you think is just cough, while you recover from it, your infant might not be that lucky….Because you decided you don;t need a TDaP and your kid should not be vaccinated at all.
Unless vaccines are mandated we cannot have a healthy disease free society.
If you dont want to vaccinate please don’t but like i said keep your kids home, homeschool them, don;t make my child an unwilling victim and jeoperdize her health with your decision because that is selfish and inconsiderate to do in the least.
We don;t need people making a public health disaster for our kids…so please by all means dont vaccinate, sign exemptions but be civil enough to not risk my kids lives with your personal decision.

Liar – there is NOT ONE country in Europe (let alone “many”) that does not vaccinate babies (often at birth for hepB and BCG, 9 weeks for DTaP).

http://www.euvac.net/graphics/.....ation.html

One thing for sure, it should not be mandated what people should put inside their body.

I vaccinated my child with 22 vaccines and saw him lose language, have seizures, etc… it has not been until we started to eliminate 18 times the normal amount of lead and 8 times the amount of mercury and alumninum from his body that he has started to come back to us. This was the same reiterated story from 10,000 people at this rally from ALL 50 states, Canada, Mexico and the Phillipines.

This group is not antivaccine… they are anti-toxin. The Blood Brain barrier (not fully developed until age 5) is not able to handle all these toxins at once and thus giving a child 36 vaccines before age 3 with multiple shots being given at one time is a huge gamble. This is why many countries in Europe (BTW the US is the industrialized country that most vaccinates children yet has the sickest population) are not vaccinating until age 5 after the Blood brain barrier and myelin has developed fully and children can fight off toxins better.

Read reports—not CDC reports, but the ones from the actual independent researchers—and think critically not in herd like mentality about your options.

This is not the first time in history this happens… cigarettes used to be good for you, AIDS was a “gay disease” in the early 80’s and thus blood transfusions could not possibly be the problem! Science is not infallible and it is the job of “The people” to remind our government and health care providers that we are not just mindlessly going to do what they want us to do without seriously considering all the risks associated with it.

Its not about not vaccinating… its about not getting 36 shots (when we only got 7 if you were born in 1978 or less earlier) before your body has the ability to tolerate it.