HELLO???? Aren’t any of you listening?

I repeat, when it stopped being the parent’s choice and right to choose, it became tyranny.

Ever tried to get a child into school or daycare without mandated vaccines? Ever tried to refuse any of the “too many” vaccines? If you had, you’d know and understand!

But as CNN reported earlier:

“”Many of these doctors say even though they might disagree with these parents, they are making changes.

“If a parent says no to an intervention, including a vaccination, I have to accept that,” said Dr. Arthur Lavin, a pediatrician in Beachwood, Ohio, and associate clinical professor of pediatrics at Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine. “I share with them what I know, but ultimately, it’s the parent’s decision.”

Dr. Kenneth Bock, a clinical instructor in the department of family medicine at Albany Medical College in New York, put it this way: “It shouldn’t be my way or the highway. We can’t say one size fits all. One size doesn’t fit all.”

In an article on CNN.com in March, two CDC doctors wrote, “Although some may call it a ‘one size fits all’ approach, the recommended vaccine schedule is flexible.”

The following is a list of vaccine changes that parents have requested and that some pediatricians have agreed to make. It does not include a discussion of the pros and cons to each approach, or a discussion of whether vaccines and autism are even linked, but rather a list of some approaches being used by some pediatricians and parents.

A list follows—go to the article to read the discussion.

1. Delaying the first hepatitis B shot
2. Not doing some shots at all
3. Checking for ‘titers’ before giving booster shots
4. Spreading the vaccines out over a longer period of time
5. Splitting up combined shots (Pertussis is not available separately, so even doctors like Sears, who offer an alternative schedule, give the DTaP shot.)

However, I want to emphasize what Tsu Dho Nimh wrote:

Perhaps the other parents want to exercise their right to choose that the herd immunity at their children’s school not be diluted unless it’s for children with medically necessary exemptions.

As for the “right to choose”, when you live in a group and expect to enjoy the benefits of group, you have to subordinate some of your individual preferences for the good of the group’s health and safety.

There was one expert, I can’t remember now if it was Mailman. On top of his expert testimony (which was about something biochemical that I can’t remember) he said that he and his wife had examined all of the evidence a couple of years ago or so because they were expecting a baby and were concerned about all this thimerosal and autism talk. They decided that the thimerosal containing vaccines were safe for their baby.

I hope we get the transcripts soon, so folks can read it for themselves.

Yes the lsit of ‘notables’ who were on the original list of experts compared to the list of expert nobodies (Vera ‘I go to their parties’ Byers) is fascinating and very revealing.

They didn’t call Dr. John (What medical board order?) Green, Dr. Boyd (Mad Child Disease) Haley, Dr. Jim (I’ll rent you an HBOT balloon) Neubrander, Dr. Mady (Rain Mouse) Hornig (now, that would have been fun), Dr. Martha (Gaia Loves Me) Herbert, Dr. Jill (whey protein supplements) James, Dr. Amy (No, really, my son was recovered) Holmes, Mr. Mark (I do Excel!) Blaxill, not even the famous Sallie/Sally Bernard.

Not sure how Camille knows but I tried asking some of them directly.

Look Kelli Anne, all humorous quips to one side you (as in, your ‘side’, not you personally) have a massive credibility issue.

You have some first rate marketing people on your side (Redwood/Blaxill etc) and some very rich people also. This means you have a lot of opportunity to push your message and get involved with the ‘powers that be’. More power to you. Go right ahead.

However, where your issue lays is here: the science that you are using to prop up your various hypotheses is embarrassingly weak. Did it not cross your mind why the Geier’s/Bradstreet et al where not called to the stand in the Omnibus hearings?

Your other issue is that you all can’t keep your story straight. Its mercury, no its MMR, no its both, no its Aluminium, no its all three, no its all ingredients, no its the very vaccines themselves, no its the schedule they’re given. No – its ALL the above. And don’t forget the mitochondria!

Now, when you do manage to get heard by the powers that be, they’ve read the decent science. They’re (with a few exceptions) not silly enough to get sucked into your agendas. So, what actually happens – and I’m afraid this is how the general public perceive you – is that you are ranting like Jenny McCarthy on Larry King Live, telling long serving doctors ‘bullshit’.

Whilst it might be very cathartic, it really doesn’t come across well. Don’t take my word for it, Google some news blogs that allow comments.

Bottom line: good science isn’t done by marketing gurus, researchers who take blood from kids at birthday parties and people who make up IRB’s. Until you can get around the issue that your science is dismal, your credibility with scientists (the people who make vaccine decisions) is zero.

“Stop while you are ahead. Circular arguments and servitude to pharma and central government are the status-quo here.”

Could you provide an example of these circular arguments and ‘servitude to pharma’?

“rather than face the truth that their own leaders have no qualms about producing a few brain-damaged kids, if it helps lobbyists line their campaign funds.”

That may or may not be true. It certainly isn’t true when it comes to answering the question: do vaccines cause autism?

“Go to autismspeaks.com, there are many nice and helpful people there, even though ms smith, kev and a few others from here try to bring everyone down, they usually get embarrassed in the forums every time they post.”

I genuinely can’t recall the last time I visited that forum. I think its over a year. And who’s ms smith?

Of course, I know because I am king of the Illuminati and I control what all pharmers and all members of the Gov think…

Actually, because the people who make the decisions and findings that public health policies are based on are scientists, and scientists are sort of fond of science. And they sort of are tending not to be impressed that Lyndelle shows up at some meeting in her tight, shiny black pants and stilettos, and they aren’t so impressed when people like Moody show up at a meeting and fall asleep. What’s his prob anyway? Guy gots narcolepsy or sumpin;?

Really Camille? How would you know?

I have a child who has been and can be affected by the real diseases. My purpose as a parent is to protect him. How is that hateful?

I search for scientific and medical research information from around the world. I do not rely on information from just the American or UK government. How is that hateful?

Please explain exactly what I have posted here that can be construed as hateful.