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	<title>Comments on: Omnibus Autism Proceeding closing statements: thimerosal</title>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51851</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know only as much about litigation as Kent Heckenlively knows about biology, but it&#039;s a reasonable guess that the respondents truncated their case because they&#039;ve already proved their point: Why drag it out--and allow the petitioners to introduce even more speculation that will demand a response--rather than simply leave well enough alone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know only as much about litigation as Kent Heckenlively knows about biology, but it&#8217;s a reasonable guess that the respondents truncated their case because they&#8217;ve already proved their point: Why drag it out&#8212;and allow the petitioners to introduce even more speculation that will demand a response&#8212;rather than simply leave well enough alone?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, (who am I) is a java scriptlet or the like by the respondents name, oh underinformed whoever.  Perhaps it is not showing up properly in your browser, and good luck with the propaganda and testimonial based half truths!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, (who am I) is a java scriptlet or the like by the respondents name, oh underinformed whoever.  Perhaps it is not showing up properly in your browser, and good luck with the propaganda and testimonial based half truths!</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51834</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just to let you in on an e-mail I received just yesterday about the court cases from my attorney.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One of the bloggers here, blogged about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2 days ago&lt;/a&gt;. Seems like your attorney is slow on the uptake.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Two world renowned toxicalogist’s who were the toxicalogist’s pillars underpinning the government’s claim that Thimerosal does not cause autism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hardly. They are two good toxicologists, but HHS have already used another excellent toxicologist (Jeffery Brent). 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Seems the doctor’s previous publication’s clearly document Thimerosal’s significant toxicity. Dr. Clarkson essentially declared the organic mercurial antiseptic’s including Thimerosal should be heavily restricted or withdrawn, “As the fact that mercury readily penetrates intact membranes and is highly toxic.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As it is, I&#039;ve no idea (and neither have you) why they were withdrawn.


&lt;blockquote&gt;And..since the recent publication of studies proving a link between Thimerosal and autism,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry? What? Which studies are these? You really shouldn&#039;t listen to CoMed.

&lt;blockquote&gt;the current exodus of experts, who are willing to testify for the respondent DHHS claiming that Thimerosal does not cause autism, appears to be excalating.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m guessing you mean &#039;escalating&#039;? Which experts have asked to leave respondents recently? Certainly Clarkson and Magos did not. It was HHS who asked for their reports to be pulled.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Gee, we would have liked to have heard what they had to say.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Me too.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I heard the Cedillo case and also read it. Each case is different. She talks, my son lost all speech after the MMR. She doesn’t even ‘act’ like my son. Complete different case.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You do realise that Cedillo is one of the &#039;test&#039; cases right? Her symptoms will be used to determine the causation theory for MMR/thiomersal.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, we have very good doctor’s for my son. Dr. Jeff Bradstreet in Melbourne, FL. Any problems with that?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The man used to recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=446&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;exorcism for autism&lt;/a&gt;. Yeah, I have a bit of a problem with that.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Test’s for 4 1/2 years have been done repeatly to various labs across America and the last big test was sent to France. Utter rubbish??? Don’t think so..facts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re referring to the Porphyrin lab tests sent to labCorp in France (the Nataf lab). Here&#039;s the testimony of someone else about the Porphyrin tests:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...the thing that is worrying us now is that we’ve not looked at a lot of control children and we’re starting to do that and finding that some normal children have abnormal Porphyrins too .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thats from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=830&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;testimony&lt;/a&gt; of Elizabeth Mumper, she is the medical director for DAN/ARI and founder of the Rimland Centre. I&#039;m guessing you know who she is.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it autism or is it mercury poisoning? Mercury poisoning has the same sysptoms of autism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it doesn&#039;t. A simple &lt;a href=&quot;http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:http://www.theautismwiki.com/Thimerosal/Bernard&amp;hl=en&amp;strip=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;line up of symptoms&lt;/a&gt; reveals you to be wrong. And if further proof were needed, there is science on the issue &lt;a href=&quot;http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/111/3/674&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as well&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, yes I am a Mother and I also hold a very good position..a profession.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, great. Is that profession that of a medical diagnostician autism specialist?</description>
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<blockquote>Just to let you in on an e-mail I received just yesterday about the court cases from my attorney.</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the bloggers here, blogged about it <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=932" rel="nofollow">2 days ago</a>. Seems like your attorney is slow on the uptake.</p>
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<blockquote>Two world renowned toxicalogist&#8217;s who were the toxicalogist&#8217;s pillars underpinning the government&#8217;s claim that Thimerosal does not cause autism.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hardly. They are two good toxicologists, but <span class="caps">HHS</span> have already used another excellent toxicologist (Jeffery Brent).</p>
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<blockquote>Seems the doctor&#8217;s previous publication&#8217;s clearly document Thimerosal&#8217;s significant toxicity. Dr. Clarkson essentially declared the organic mercurial antiseptic&#8217;s including Thimerosal should be heavily restricted or withdrawn, &#8220;As the fact that mercury readily penetrates intact membranes and is highly toxic.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As it is, I&#8217;ve no idea (and neither have you) why they were withdrawn.</p>
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<blockquote>And..since the recent publication of studies proving a link between Thimerosal and autism,</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry? What? Which studies are these? You really shouldn&#8217;t listen to CoMed.</p>
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<blockquote>the current exodus of experts, who are willing to testify for the respondent <span class="caps">DHHS</span> claiming that Thimerosal does not cause autism, appears to be excalating.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing you mean &#8216;escalating&#8217;? Which experts have asked to leave respondents recently? Certainly Clarkson and Magos did not. It was <span class="caps">HHS</span> who asked for their reports to be pulled.</p>
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<blockquote>Gee, we would have liked to have heard what they had to say.</p></blockquote>
<p>Me too.</p>
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<blockquote>I heard the Cedillo case and also read it. Each case is different. She talks, my son lost all speech after the <span class="caps">MMR</span>. She doesn&#8217;t even &#8216;act&#8217; like my son. Complete different case.</p></blockquote>
<p>You do realise that Cedillo is one of the &#8216;test&#8217; cases right? Her symptoms will be used to determine the causation theory for <span class="caps">MMR</span>/thiomersal.</p>
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<blockquote>Yes, we have very good doctor&#8217;s for my son. Dr. Jeff Bradstreet in Melbourne, FL. Any problems with that?</p></blockquote>
<p>The man used to recommend <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=446" rel="nofollow">exorcism for autism</a>. Yeah, I have a bit of a problem with that.</p>
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<blockquote>Test&#8217;s for 4 1/2 years have been done repeatly to various labs across America and the last big test was sent to France. Utter rubbish??? Don&#8217;t think so..facts.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re referring to the Porphyrin lab tests sent to labCorp in France (the Nataf lab). Here&#8217;s the testimony of someone else about the Porphyrin tests:</p>
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<blockquote>...the thing that is worrying us now is that we&#8217;ve not looked at a lot of control children and we&#8217;re starting to do that and finding that some normal children have abnormal Porphyrins too .</p></blockquote>
<p>Thats from the <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=830" rel="nofollow">testimony</a> of Elizabeth Mumper, she is the medical director for <span class="caps">DAN</span>/ARI and founder of the Rimland Centre. I&#8217;m guessing you know who she is.</p>
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<blockquote>Is it autism or is it mercury poisoning? Mercury poisoning has the same sysptoms of autism.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t. A simple <a href="http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:http://www.theautismwiki.com/Thimerosal/Bernard&#38;hl=en&#38;strip=1" rel="nofollow">line up of symptoms</a> reveals you to be wrong. And if further proof were needed, there is science on the issue <a href="http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/111/3/674" rel="nofollow">as well</a>.</p>
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<blockquote>Oh, yes I am a Mother and I also hold a very good position..a profession.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, great. Is that profession that of a medical diagnostician autism specialist?</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn Abdilla</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51832</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn Abdilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is for &#039;Who am I&#039;. Just to let you in on an e-mail I received just yesterday about the court cases from my attorney. July 3, 2008 three Special Master&#039;s recorded and granted the DHHS their request to withdraw two expert&#039;s report&#039;s. Dr. Mangos (England) and Dr. Clarkson (N. Y.) Two world renowned toxicalogist&#039;s who were the toxicalogist&#039;s pillars underpinning the government&#039;s claim that Thimerosal does not cause autism. Hmmmmm
Special Master&#039;s said they would not consider the Dr.&#039;s reports at all in resolving the test cases. Court is still being conducted and these two doctor&#039;s were to testify to the safety of Thimerosal in vaccines. Seems the doctor&#039;s previous publication&#039;s clearly document Thimerosal&#039;s significant toxicity. Dr. Clarkson essentially declared the organic mercurial antiseptic&#039;s including Thimerosal should be heavily restricted or withdrawn, &quot;As the fact that mercury readily penetrates intact membranes and is highly toxic.&quot; And..since the recent publication of studies proving a link between Thimerosal and autism, the current exodus of experts, who are willing to testify for the respondent DHHS claiming that Thimerosal does not cause autism, appears to be excalating. Wonder why their bowing out? Gee, we would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I heard the Cedillo case and also read it. Each case is different. She talks, my son lost all speech after the MMR. She doesn&#039;t even &#039;act&#039; like my son. Complete different case. She may have in earlier years as my son just turned 6 years old. Yes, we have very good doctor&#039;s for my son. Dr. Jeff Bradstreet in Melbourne, FL. Any problems with that? Test&#039;s for 4 1/2 years have been done repeatly to various labs across America and the last big test was sent to France. Utter rubbish??? Don&#039;t think so..facts. Also, I didn&#039;t say it was the MMR vaccine that caused the leaky gut. The MMR vaccine went thru the leaky gut into his body and brain. The damage was done by the Thimerosal before the MMR. Is it autism or is it mercury poisoning? Mercury poisoning has the same sysptoms of autism. Autism is a word, an umbrella, for various disorders. Regardless of what it&#039;s called my son falls in the bracket of children who should never had Thimereosal to begin with causing the MMR to stay in his body causing further damage. Oh, yes I am a Mother and I also hold a very good position..a profession. But yes, the outcome of the court will tell all and I have a very good feeling about that. No doubt. With experts talking with fork tongue doesn&#039;t look good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for &#8216;Who am I&#8217;. Just to let you in on an e-mail I received just yesterday about the court cases from my attorney. July 3, 2008 three Special Master&#8217;s recorded and granted the <span class="caps">DHHS</span> their request to withdraw two expert&#8217;s report&#8217;s. Dr. Mangos (England) and Dr. Clarkson (N. Y.) Two world renowned toxicalogist&#8217;s who were the toxicalogist&#8217;s pillars underpinning the government&#8217;s claim that Thimerosal does not cause autism. Hmmmmm<br />
Special Master&#8217;s said they would not consider the Dr.&#8217;s reports at all in resolving the test cases. Court is still being conducted and these two doctor&#8217;s were to testify to the safety of Thimerosal in vaccines. Seems the doctor&#8217;s previous publication&#8217;s clearly document Thimerosal&#8217;s significant toxicity. Dr. Clarkson essentially declared the organic mercurial antiseptic&#8217;s including Thimerosal should be heavily restricted or withdrawn, &#8220;As the fact that mercury readily penetrates intact membranes and is highly toxic.&#8221; And..since the recent publication of studies proving a link between Thimerosal and autism, the current exodus of experts, who are willing to testify for the respondent <span class="caps">DHHS</span> claiming that Thimerosal does not cause autism, appears to be excalating. Wonder why their bowing out? Gee, we would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I heard the Cedillo case and also read it. Each case is different. She talks, my son lost all speech after the <span class="caps">MMR</span>. She doesn&#8217;t even &#8216;act&#8217; like my son. Complete different case. She may have in earlier years as my son just turned 6 years old. Yes, we have very good doctor&#8217;s for my son. Dr. Jeff Bradstreet in Melbourne, FL. Any problems with that? Test&#8217;s for 4 1/2 years have been done repeatly to various labs across America and the last big test was sent to France. Utter rubbish??? Don&#8217;t think so..facts. Also, I didn&#8217;t say it was the <span class="caps">MMR</span> vaccine that caused the leaky gut. The <span class="caps">MMR</span> vaccine went thru the leaky gut into his body and brain. The damage was done by the Thimerosal before the <span class="caps">MMR</span>. Is it autism or is it mercury poisoning? Mercury poisoning has the same sysptoms of autism. Autism is a word, an umbrella, for various disorders. Regardless of what it&#8217;s called my son falls in the bracket of children who should never had Thimereosal to begin with causing the <span class="caps">MMR</span> to stay in his body causing further damage. Oh, yes I am a Mother and I also hold a very good position..a profession. But yes, the outcome of the court will tell all and I have a very good feeling about that. No doubt. With experts talking with fork tongue doesn&#8217;t look good.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51792</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marilyn, thats such a melange of utter rubbish I&#039;m not sure where to start. But lets try.

&lt;blockquote&gt;No one can even speak or judge unless you have a child or family member that has been injured or harmed by vaccines.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course they can. Its not a subject that is the sole province of the petitioners for goodness sake. How do you think the Special masters are going to judge?

&lt;blockquote&gt;To explain regression I can do that very well. Walk in my shoes.. you have given birth to a very normal baby, raised the baby and reached the 15 month old time for manadated vaccines AGAIN only to have your very normal baby flare up within hours screaming, high fever, swollen limbs red hot for days where in injection spot was and told this is normal from your doctor.. is a horrible experience. Yes, given vaccines in both arms and legs, one being the MMR. This baby NEVER talked again, ran in circles screaming, never picked up a toy, lost all eye contact, never knew his family members from a stranger, could not hold him, hug him or kiss him as he would start screaming…slept very little..so no one got any sleep..24/7 days year round, screamed all the time outside of house. That is severe regression&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe. But lets recall the courtroom experience of the Cedillo&#039;s. They were also positive their child had regressed. It turned out from their own home videos that she hadn&#039;t. You&#039;re a mum Marilyn, not a diagnostician. Thats not slighting you, I&#039;m just saying there are subtle clues you were neither trained to notice, nor inclined to. There&#039;s even an established psychological term for it: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recall_bias&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Recall Bias&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And leaky gut..do you know what a leaky gut is? Do you know what caused the leaky gut? The answer is not hard to figure out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unfortunately, the answer _is_ quite hard to figure out. Its not the MMR however. If you think it is, I suggest you &lt;a href=&quot;http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=566&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read some more testimony&lt;/a&gt; from the Cedillo hearing.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Can any of you answer why the mercury and measle virus (full dose) stayed in his body and was not excreted?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Can you tell me (naming the doctor and lab you used) why you think it was?

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you can answer these questions than you should have been an expert witness for the government cause all they could say was “no link”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m afraid thats far from the case. I&#039;m not sure where you got that from but it is simply not true. The Respondent experts gave very good testimony. For example, this most recent case, &lt;a href=&quot;http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=854&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeffery  Brent&lt;/a&gt; gave very good and clear evidence about the toxicology of the Williams and Mead kids.

&lt;blockquote&gt;...there is a percentage of children that are suscepible to metal toxins and virus..proven&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which has what to do with autism exactly?

&lt;blockquote&gt;So please, don’t judge the results of the cases unless you KNOW all facts and what has been hidden from the public.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whereas you of course know all the facts? I&#039;m not impressed with conspiracy theory&#039;s. I am impressed with science. And thats what these Omnibus cases will hopefully be decided upon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn, thats such a melange of utter rubbish I&#8217;m not sure where to start. But lets try.</p>
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<blockquote>No one can even speak or judge unless you have a child or family member that has been injured or harmed by vaccines.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course they can. Its not a subject that is the sole province of the petitioners for goodness sake. How do you think the Special masters are going to judge?</p>
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<blockquote>To explain regression I can do that very well. Walk in my shoes.. you have given birth to a very normal baby, raised the baby and reached the 15 month old time for manadated vaccines <span class="caps">AGAIN</span> only to have your very normal baby flare up within hours screaming, high fever, swollen limbs red hot for days where in injection spot was and told this is normal from your doctor.. is a horrible experience. Yes, given vaccines in both arms and legs, one being the <span class="caps">MMR</span>. This baby <span class="caps">NEVER</span> talked again, ran in circles screaming, never picked up a toy, lost all eye contact, never knew his family members from a stranger, could not hold him, hug him or kiss him as he would start screaming&#8230;slept very little..so no one got any sleep..24/7 days year round, screamed all the time outside of house. That is severe regression</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe. But lets recall the courtroom experience of the Cedillo&#8217;s. They were also positive their child had regressed. It turned out from their own home videos that she hadn&#8217;t. You&#8217;re a mum Marilyn, not a diagnostician. Thats not slighting you, I&#8217;m just saying there are subtle clues you were neither trained to notice, nor inclined to. There&#8217;s even an established psychological term for it: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recall_bias" rel="nofollow">Recall Bias</a>.</p>
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<blockquote>And leaky gut..do you know what a leaky gut is? Do you know what caused the leaky gut? The answer is not hard to figure out.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, the answer <em>is</em> quite hard to figure out. Its not the <span class="caps">MMR</span> however. If you think it is, I suggest you <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=566" rel="nofollow">read some more testimony</a> from the Cedillo hearing.</p>
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<blockquote>Can any of you answer why the mercury and measle virus (full dose) stayed in his body and was not excreted?</p></blockquote>
<p>Can you tell me (naming the doctor and lab you used) why you think it was?</p>
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<blockquote>If you can answer these questions than you should have been an expert witness for the government cause all they could say was &#8220;no link&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid thats far from the case. I&#8217;m not sure where you got that from but it is simply not true. The Respondent experts gave very good testimony. For example, this most recent case, <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=854" rel="nofollow">Jeffery  Brent</a> gave very good and clear evidence about the toxicology of the Williams and Mead kids.</p>
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<blockquote>...there is a percentage of children that are suscepible to metal toxins and virus..proven</p></blockquote>
<p>Which has what to do with autism exactly?</p>
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<blockquote>So please, don&#8217;t judge the results of the cases unless you <span class="caps">KNOW</span> all facts and what has been hidden from the public.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whereas you of course know all the facts? I&#8217;m not impressed with conspiracy theory&#8217;s. I am impressed with science. And thats what these Omnibus cases will hopefully be decided upon.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn Abdilla</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51791</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn Abdilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I must say reading thru these comments I sense alot of immature people ranting and raving as if they are experts in judging ANY court lawsuit case concerning vaccines and autism. No one can even speak or judge unless you have a child or family member that has been injured or harmed by vaccines.And YES, there have been many injured and harmed. To explain regression I can do that very well. Walk in my shoes.. you have given birth to a very normal baby, raised the baby and reached the 15 month old time for manadated vaccines AGAIN only to have your very normal baby flare up within hours screaming, high fever, swollen limbs red hot for days where in injection spot was and told this is normal from your doctor.. is a horrible experience. Yes, given vaccines in both arms and legs, one being the MMR. This baby NEVER talked again, ran in circles screaming, never picked up a toy, lost all eye contact, never knew his family members from a stranger, could not hold him, hug him or kiss him as he would start screaming...slept very little..so no one got any sleep..24/7 days year round, screamed all the time outside of house. That is severe regression. Plus many more horrible issues I didn&#039;t mention. This baby is now going on 7 years old, wears diapers, does not talk and flaps his hands in front of his face and has to make strange sounds cause he can&#039;t talk. That is regression. Tested many times..mercury high..measle virus (titers) Very high. And leaky gut..do you know what a leaky gut is? Do you know what caused the leaky gut? The answer is not hard to figure out. Can any of you answer why the mercury and measle virus (full dose) stayed in his body and was not excreted? If you can answer these questions than you should have been an expert witness for the government cause all they could say was &quot;no link&quot;. All cases are not severe I admit and some will be dismissed but there is a percentage of children that are suscepible to metal toxins and virus..proven. These children were not included in the research testing according to an expert from the government. So please, don&#039;t judge the results of the cases unless you KNOW all facts and what has been hidden from the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I must say reading thru these comments I sense alot of immature people ranting and raving as if they are experts in judging <span class="caps">ANY</span> court lawsuit case concerning vaccines and autism. No one can even speak or judge unless you have a child or family member that has been injured or harmed by vaccines.And <span class="caps">YES</span>, there have been many injured and harmed. To explain regression I can do that very well. Walk in my shoes.. you have given birth to a very normal baby, raised the baby and reached the 15 month old time for manadated vaccines <span class="caps">AGAIN</span> only to have your very normal baby flare up within hours screaming, high fever, swollen limbs red hot for days where in injection spot was and told this is normal from your doctor.. is a horrible experience. Yes, given vaccines in both arms and legs, one being the <span class="caps">MMR</span>. This baby <span class="caps">NEVER</span> talked again, ran in circles screaming, never picked up a toy, lost all eye contact, never knew his family members from a stranger, could not hold him, hug him or kiss him as he would start screaming&#8230;slept very little..so no one got any sleep..24/7 days year round, screamed all the time outside of house. That is severe regression. Plus many more horrible issues I didn&#8217;t mention. This baby is now going on 7 years old, wears diapers, does not talk and flaps his hands in front of his face and has to make strange sounds cause he can&#8217;t talk. That is regression. Tested many times..mercury high..measle virus (titers) Very high. And leaky gut..do you know what a leaky gut is? Do you know what caused the leaky gut? The answer is not hard to figure out. Can any of you answer why the mercury and measle virus (full dose) stayed in his body and was not excreted? If you can answer these questions than you should have been an expert witness for the government cause all they could say was &#8220;no link&#8221;. All cases are not severe I admit and some will be dismissed but there is a percentage of children that are suscepible to metal toxins and virus..proven. These children were not included in the research testing according to an expert from the government. So please, don&#8217;t judge the results of the cases unless you <span class="caps">KNOW</span> all facts and what has been hidden from the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Summer Autism Topics</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51481</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Summer Autism Topics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2007, the case of Michelle Cedillo was heard; the case of Hannah Poling was to be the second case; closing statements in the cases of William Mead and Jordan King were heard in June. All is not quiet in the vaccine [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2007, the case of Michelle Cedillo was heard; the case of Hannah Poling was to be the second case; closing statements in the cases of William Mead and Jordan King were heard in June. All is not quiet in the vaccine [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lin</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51124</link>
		<dc:creator>Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry!  Posted to wrong topic.  I&#039;ll have to do some catching up on this one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry!  Posted to wrong topic.  I&#8217;ll have to do some catching up on this one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lin</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51122</link>
		<dc:creator>Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or...you could just follow this link and take a yittle looksie for yourself...hmmm...

http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/jenny/dc-rally/green-our-vaccines-rally-recap.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or&#8230;you could just follow this link and take a yittle looksie for yourself&#8230;hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/jenny/dc-rally/green-our-vaccines-rally-recap.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkaboutcuringauti.....-recap.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Clark</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/06/omnibus-autism-proceeding-closing-statements-thimerosal/#comment-51121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DoJ&#039;s expert witnesses included absolute giants in the field of autism, and besides them some seriously heavy hitters in the fields of oxidative stress, &quot;neuroinflammation&quot;, nutrition and toxicology.  Why is it that the PSC didn&#039;t put on ONE single toxicologist? Not even a bush league toxicologist?  Or did I miss the testimony of the PSC&#039;s toxicologist where he or she said that the mail order lab&#039;s provoked urine heavy metals tests were compelling ... and proved... something, anything.  

And it&#039;s not like they just had these little weanie experts, they also had these little weanine experts lie on the witness stand.  I think a pretty good case could be made that at least one of their witnesses deliberately manufactured data in the lab to support his testimony.  Not to mention the absolutely weird inflating of credentials on the part of a few of the witnesses and Dr. Kinsbourne doing the &quot;find and replace&quot; feature on his first report implicating measles and using it to create his second report implicating mercury, so super easy.  And the weird thing about Deth and  creating a histogram from data from the duck brain paper that is 50 years old!

If I were the Special Masters I&#039;d be in a sort of mood, cranky-like, because I had been treated with such disrespect.   Don&#039;t forget the PSC lawyers turning their backs to the bench in Cedillo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DoJ&#8217;s expert witnesses included absolute giants in the field of autism, and besides them some seriously heavy hitters in the fields of oxidative stress, &#8220;neuroinflammation&#8221;, nutrition and toxicology.  Why is it that the <span class="caps">PSC</span> didn&#8217;t put on <span class="caps">ONE</span> single toxicologist? Not even a bush league toxicologist?  Or did I miss the testimony of the <span class="caps">PSC</span>&#8217;s toxicologist where he or she said that the mail order lab&#8217;s provoked urine heavy metals tests were compelling &#8230; and proved&#8230; something, anything.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not like they just had these little weanie experts, they also had these little weanine experts lie on the witness stand.  I think a pretty good case could be made that at least one of their witnesses deliberately manufactured data in the lab to support his testimony.  Not to mention the absolutely weird inflating of credentials on the part of a few of the witnesses and Dr. Kinsbourne doing the &#8220;find and replace&#8221; feature on his first report implicating measles and using it to create his second report implicating mercury, so super easy.  And the weird thing about Deth and  creating a histogram from data from the duck brain paper that is 50 years old!</p>
<p>If I were the Special Masters I&#8217;d be in a sort of mood, cranky-like, because I had been treated with such disrespect.   Don&#8217;t forget the <span class="caps">PSC</span> lawyers turning their backs to the bench in Cedillo.</p>
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