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		<title>By: Autism Blog - Conflicts, then and now &#124; Left Brain/Right Brain</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52803</link>
		<dc:creator>Autism Blog - Conflicts, then and now &#124; Left Brain/Right Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people people (and Orac, and Kev, and AutismNewsBeat, to name a few) have gotten it right already, so I shouldn&#8217;t be too [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people people (and Orac, and Kev, and AutismNewsBeat, to name a few) have gotten it right already, so I shouldn&#8217;t be too [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Autism Blog - Yet another look at CBS&#8217;s view of Offit&#8217;s COI&#8217;s &#124; Left Brain/Right Brain</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52210</link>
		<dc:creator>Autism Blog - Yet another look at CBS&#8217;s view of Offit&#8217;s COI&#8217;s &#124; Left Brain/Right Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Offit has been much in the news and blogOsphere lately (Say, here , here and here. Dr. Offit is a vaccine researcher and vocal supporter of vaccines. This makes him a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Offit has been much in the news and blogOsphere lately (Say, here , here and here. Dr. Offit is a vaccine researcher and vocal supporter of vaccines. This makes him a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VFV Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Catching up&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52192</link>
		<dc:creator>VFV Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Catching up&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have made an impact was to write a letter to CBS News objecting to their unfair treatment of three fellow immunization advocates. This letter quickly made its way to an anti-vaccine organization, an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have made an impact was to write a letter to <span class="caps">CBS </span>News objecting to their unfair treatment of three fellow immunization advocates. This letter quickly made its way to an anti-vaccine organization, an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52190</link>
		<dc:creator>Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn,

Merck&#039;s Rotateq vaccine is not a non-profit vaccine and is contained in Merck&#039;s quarterly sales numbers if you read their financial results.  Last year, it was at 171M a quarter, which means it was nearing the coveted billion dollar a year mark.  

I believe you were likely reading about Merck working with PATH who is a non-profit organization.  They are jointly running clinical trials in Africa.  This type of marketing data, will then be used to justify the mass deployment of the vaccine to third world countries.

The North American and European sales will continue to produce generous profits for Merck.

WRT to Dr. Offit, he was (and probably still is) working as a consultant for Merck which means he certainly stands to gain financially from the financial benefits of his sponsor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn,</p>
<p>Merck&#8217;s Rotateq vaccine is not a non-profit vaccine and is contained in Merck&#8217;s quarterly sales numbers if you read their financial results.  Last year, it was at 171M a quarter, which means it was nearing the coveted billion dollar a year mark.</p>
<p>I believe you were likely reading about Merck working with <span class="caps">PATH</span> who is a non-profit organization.  They are jointly running clinical trials in Africa.  This type of marketing data, will then be used to justify the mass deployment of the vaccine to third world countries.</p>
<p>The North American and European sales will continue to produce generous profits for Merck.</p>
<p><span class="caps">WRT</span> to Dr. Offit, he was (and probably still is) working as a consultant for Merck which means he certainly stands to gain financially from the financial benefits of his sponsor.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52189</link>
		<dc:creator>Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isles,

Do you think that patients come in and demand MMRII from merck?  How about the branded flu vaccine from Chiron?  How about the DTAP variants?  Do you even know how many are available in the US and Canada?

In a lot of cases with recommended vaccines in the schedule, bulk orders get put in by large organizations (government, HMO&#039;s, hospitals), and they don&#039;t base their purchase decision on who was first to market.  They base it on availability, and cost.

The FDA is trying to encourage more vaccine development, not less.  Why would they design a system that provides a dis-incentive for multiple product offerings?  The opposite is true.  They are trying to promote vaccine development, not guarantee monopoly to the first past the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isles,</p>
<p>Do you think that patients come in and demand <span class="caps">MMRII</span> from merck?  How about the branded flu vaccine from Chiron?  How about the <span class="caps">DTAP</span> variants?  Do you even know how many are available in the US and Canada?</p>
<p>In a lot of cases with recommended vaccines in the schedule, bulk orders get put in by large organizations (government, <span class="caps">HMO</span>&#8217;s, hospitals), and they don&#8217;t base their purchase decision on who was first to market.  They base it on availability, and cost.</p>
<p>The <span class="caps">FDA</span> is trying to encourage more vaccine development, not less.  Why would they design a system that provides a dis-incentive for multiple product offerings?  The opposite is true.  They are trying to promote vaccine development, not guarantee monopoly to the first past the post.</p>
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		<title>By: isles</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52187</link>
		<dc:creator>isles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t get it, do you, Schwartz?  The first vaccine out of the box is what doctors start using.  The second one to hit the market has to convince them to change their habits.  That is the situation that approving Rotashield set up for RotaTeq.

Your incorrect assertions are not welcome just because you think you&#039;re being diplomatic in delivering them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t get it, do you, Schwartz?  The first vaccine out of the box is what doctors start using.  The second one to hit the market has to convince them to change their habits.  That is the situation that approving Rotashield set up for RotaTeq.</p>
<p>Your incorrect assertions are not welcome just because you think you&#8217;re being diplomatic in delivering them.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52186</link>
		<dc:creator>Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isles,

The last time I looked up the definition of bi-partisan committee it consisted of more than one person.  Of course sweeping unsubstantiated generalizations are exactly the type of false arguments you have a history of giving.  This is even more ironic since the report is quite detailed and specific in it&#039;s accusations.  Of course, you present no evidence to contradict it.

I&#039;ll stop wasting my time until you have something concrete to discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isles,</p>
<p>The last time I looked up the definition of bi-partisan committee it consisted of more than one person.  Of course sweeping unsubstantiated generalizations are exactly the type of false arguments you have a history of giving.  This is even more ironic since the report is quite detailed and specific in it&#8217;s accusations.  Of course, you present no evidence to contradict it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stop wasting my time until you have something concrete to discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52185</link>
		<dc:creator>Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Sullivan but nice try on your spin,

1) An early vaccine for a new disease gets approved for use, but not recommended on the schedule 
2) the first company shows over time (by performing marketing trials) efficacy in financial objectives (reduced hospitalizations etc) using this data to justify inclusion in the recommended schedule
3) Second company comes along providing a second source of manufacturing (important to the FDA) with similar efficacy and safety data 
4) It is a no brainer to allow that vaccine to also be included in the recommended schedule. 

This is simple logic and happens all the time.  The data required to include the second vaccine in the schedule is far less onerous than the first unless there are problems with the first one.

If the early vaccine gets subsequently removed from the schedule, there will be (and was) increased scrutiny on all vaccines of that class, and as such much more expensive for any vaccine of that type to be included in the schedule, hence the large study for Merck, and the significant post-deployment tracking requirements.

No trickery here.  Just simple economics and process.

&quot;As to the, &quot;thanks for adding more evidence..&quot; type of comments—I don’t see how promoting that sort of image for yourself helps your discussion. It really doesn’t reflect well upon you.&quot;

I guess the blatent hypocracy of pointing out a relatively polite response while ignoring direct personal attacks from Isles reflects well on you?  Why don&#039;t you worry about your own objectivity first?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Sullivan but nice try on your spin,</p>
<p>1) An early vaccine for a new disease gets approved for use, but not recommended on the schedule<br />
2) the first company shows over time (by performing marketing trials) efficacy in financial objectives (reduced hospitalizations etc) using this data to justify inclusion in the recommended schedule<br />
3) Second company comes along providing a second source of manufacturing (important to the <span class="caps">FDA</span>) with similar efficacy and safety data<br />
4) It is a no brainer to allow that vaccine to also be included in the recommended schedule.</p>
<p>This is simple logic and happens all the time.  The data required to include the second vaccine in the schedule is far less onerous than the first unless there are problems with the first one.</p>
<p>If the early vaccine gets subsequently removed from the schedule, there will be (and was) increased scrutiny on all vaccines of that class, and as such much more expensive for any vaccine of that type to be included in the schedule, hence the large study for Merck, and the significant post-deployment tracking requirements.</p>
<p>No trickery here.  Just simple economics and process.</p>
<p>&#8220;As to the, &#8220;thanks for adding more evidence..&#8221; type of comments&#8212;I don&#8217;t see how promoting that sort of image for yourself helps your discussion. It really doesn&#8217;t reflect well upon you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess the blatent hypocracy of pointing out a relatively polite response while ignoring direct personal attacks from Isles reflects well on you?  Why don&#8217;t you worry about your own objectivity first?</p>
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		<title>By: isles</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52184</link>
		<dc:creator>isles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the potential for one&#039;s institution to benefit would not be much of a motivation for one to make statements that put one&#039;s professional credibility on the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the potential for one&#8217;s institution to benefit would not be much of a motivation for one to make statements that put one&#8217;s professional credibility on the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/07/conflicts-of-interest-whats-good-for-the-goose/#comment-52182</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schwartz/Isles:  I have a question - according to items I have read, Dr Offit does not profit from the rotavirus vaccine as the proceeds go to non-profit organizations.  So, if a person does not personally benefit financially, is it a conflict of interest?  I think the non-profits DO benefit the university and hospital he works for, but am not sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schwartz/Isles:  I have a question &#8211; according to items I have read, Dr Offit does not profit from the rotavirus vaccine as the proceeds go to non-profit organizations.  So, if a person does not personally benefit financially, is it a conflict of interest?  I think the non-profits DO benefit the university and hospital he works for, but am not sure.</p>
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