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		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/03/oldstone-letter-in-the-omnibus-docket/#comment-59054</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of course, the big news in America has been the verdict in the vaccine court that there is no connection between MMR and autism. There is very little neutral ground on this issue. Those who believe that vaccines do cause autism will find support for their views on the Age of Autism If, like me you discount any connection between vaccines and autism, you will prefer Left Brain Right Brain. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Of course, the big news in America has been the verdict in the vaccine court that there is no connection between <span class="caps">MMR</span> and autism. There is very little neutral ground on this issue. Those who believe that vaccines do cause autism will find support for their views on the Age of Autism&#160;If, like me you discount any connection between vaccines and autism, you will prefer Left Brain Right Brain. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/03/oldstone-letter-in-the-omnibus-docket/#comment-57879</link>
		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Deer,

the audio from the newsconference can be found here

http://www.mediafire.com/?ti2ojnymwsh

Kev discussed thsi in a blog post,
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1285

O&#039;Leary doesn&#039;t state that he knows the Wakefield samples were contaminated.  As I recall, he gives that as a strong possiblity of why the samples gave false positives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Deer,</p>
<p>the audio from the newsconference can be found here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?ti2ojnymwsh" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediafire.com/?ti2ojnymwsh</a></p>
<p>Kev discussed thsi in a blog post,<br />
<a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1285" rel="nofollow">http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1285</a></p>
<p>O&#8217;Leary doesn&#8217;t state that he knows the Wakefield samples were contaminated.  As I recall, he gives that as a strong possiblity of why the samples gave false positives.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Deer</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/03/oldstone-letter-in-the-omnibus-docket/#comment-57873</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Deer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In June 2002, after another senior academic had refered to the Oldstone-O&#039;Leary matter during the farcical Burton hearings, this is what Wakefield said:

&quot;I would like to put the record straight with respect to Dr. Gershon’s testimony last year on the molecular detection of measles virus in the laboratory of Professor O’Leary. Dr. Gershon’s was false in relation to a number of assertions, whether or not his testimony constituted perjury or simply sloppy science. It is not my wish to take up valuable time in this hearing with the details of Dr. Gershon’s unacceptable errors or correspondence relating to this. All raw data have been provided to both the ranking
majority and minority members. Merely by way of illustration, he stated that tissues from experimental animals and others infected with measles virus were positive in Professor O’Leary’s lab. In fact, they were all entirely and consistently negative on repeat testing in blinded studies. Scientifically, Dr. Gershon’s behavior was a disgrace and I stand by that. I would level the same charge at anyone who relies on or has relied on in any way upon his testimony. The disgrace is that he did not check the raw data before impugning the reputation of a fellow scientist before the eyes of the world.&quot;

In other words, someone who had honestly told the committee that Oldstone had withdrawn cooperation with Wakefield and O&#039;Leary after finding contamination in blinded samples, was subjected to abusive allegations of &quot;perjury&quot; from Wakefield.  Wakefield went on to attack Gershon&#039;s wife, alleging she had a conflict of interest over a chickenpox vaccine patent (she didn&#039;t, but he had one over a measles vaccine patent).

I actually asked Oldstone about this, years back, and he confirmed Gershon&#039;s account.

BTW, Sullivan, where did O&#039;Leary talk about Wakefield&#039;s samples being contaminated?  You mention a press conference.  Is there are record?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In June 2002, after another senior academic had refered to the Oldstone-O&#8217;Leary matter during the farcical Burton hearings, this is what Wakefield said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I would like to put the record straight with respect to Dr. Gershon&#8217;s testimony last year on the molecular detection of measles virus in the laboratory of Professor O&#8217;Leary. Dr. Gershon&#8217;s was false in relation to a number of assertions, whether or not his testimony constituted perjury or simply sloppy science. It is not my wish to take up valuable time in this hearing with the details of Dr. Gershon&#8217;s unacceptable errors or correspondence relating to this. All raw data have been provided to both the ranking<br />
majority and minority members. Merely by way of illustration, he stated that tissues from experimental animals and others infected with measles virus were positive in Professor O&#8217;Leary&#8217;s lab. In fact, they were all entirely and consistently negative on repeat testing in blinded studies. Scientifically, Dr. Gershon&#8217;s behavior was a disgrace and I stand by that. I would level the same charge at anyone who relies on or has relied on in any way upon his testimony. The disgrace is that he did not check the raw data before impugning the reputation of a fellow scientist before the eyes of the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, someone who had honestly told the committee that Oldstone had withdrawn cooperation with Wakefield and O&#8217;Leary after finding contamination in blinded samples, was subjected to abusive allegations of &#8220;perjury&#8221; from Wakefield.  Wakefield went on to attack Gershon&#8217;s wife, alleging she had a conflict of interest over a chickenpox vaccine patent (she didn&#8217;t, but he had one over a measles vaccine patent).</p>
<p>I actually asked Oldstone about this, years back, and he confirmed Gershon&#8217;s account.</p>
<p><span class="caps">BTW</span>, Sullivan, where did O&#8217;Leary talk about Wakefield&#8217;s samples being contaminated?  You mention a press conference.  Is there are record?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/03/oldstone-letter-in-the-omnibus-docket/#comment-57871</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean the O&#039;Leary lab did better than random chance or guessing? I&#039;m a little shocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean the O&#8217;Leary lab did better than random chance or guessing? I&#8217;m a little shocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/03/oldstone-letter-in-the-omnibus-docket/#comment-57865</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah but its the Judge Eady letters that _really_ matter. If you&#039;re desperate to move attention away from the contamination and bad process in the O&#039;Leary lab of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but its the Judge Eady letters that <em>really</em> matter. If you&#8217;re desperate to move attention away from the contamination and bad process in the O&#8217;Leary lab of course.</p>
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