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		<title>By: In Which I Take Jim Carrey To Task &#171; Pat&#8217;s Daily Grind</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/04/thrown-under-the-busbut-for-a-good-cause-right/#comment-58529</link>
		<dc:creator>In Which I Take Jim Carrey To Task &#171; Pat&#8217;s Daily Grind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] entirely on procedural grounds.  Pony up some evidence, here, good man.  (edited to add)  Here&#8217;s why the two are not equivalent. In this growing crisis, we cannot afford to blindly trumpet the agenda of the CDC, the American [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] entirely on procedural grounds.&#160; Pony up some evidence, here, good man.&#160; (edited to add)&#160; Here&#8217;s why the two are not equivalent. In this growing crisis, we cannot afford to blindly trumpet the agenda of the <span class="caps">CDC</span>, the American [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blog about vaccines for multiple reasons

1) There are people making dangerous claims about vaccines.  These can and do cause harm in the world--injuring and killing people.  Correcting misinformation seems a worthy cause.

2) Many of those promoting the dangerous claims about vaccines claim to be &quot;autism advocates&quot;.  If/when a resurgence of vaccine preventable disease happens,  I don&#039;t want the blame attached to the autism community as a whole.  

3) Those who would promote the autism-is-vaccine-injury idea are taking resources away from other areas of autism research.  Read the posts again--research into areas such as under-identified subgroups (ethnic minorities, the poor, adults, etc) isn&#039;t happening--and this is partly because the discussions in the IACC meetings are dominated by vaccines.

The vaccine debate--and the harm it causes--isn&#039;t going away if we ignore it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blog about vaccines for multiple reasons</p>
<p>1) There are people making dangerous claims about vaccines.  These can and do cause harm in the world&#8212;injuring and killing people.  Correcting misinformation seems a worthy cause.</p>
<p>2) Many of those promoting the dangerous claims about vaccines claim to be &#8220;autism advocates&#8221;.  If/when a resurgence of vaccine preventable disease happens,  I don&#8217;t want the blame attached to the autism community as a whole.</p>
<p>3) Those who would promote the autism-is-vaccine-injury idea are taking resources away from other areas of autism research.  Read the posts again&#8212;research into areas such as under-identified subgroups (ethnic minorities, the poor, adults, etc) isn&#8217;t happening&#8212;and this is partly because the discussions in the <span class="caps">IACC</span> meetings are dominated by vaccines.</p>
<p>The vaccine debate&#8212;and the harm it causes&#8212;isn&#8217;t going away if we ignore it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is why is lb/rb,or any blog that wants to take itself seriously,still blogging about vaccines,and antivaxers?Ms. Redwood&#039;s paper was published in 2004,many of us have moved on since then.If there is a population of diehards out there,like Age of Autism,or JABS,that want to keep scientifically unproven claims alive,what possible good does it to to keep paying attention to their tired old claims,or even more fantastic new ones ?

Far too much time,labor,and funding has been wasted proving thimerosol does not cause autism.Why can&#039;t everybody just ignore the antivaxer flat earth society,and see if they eventually go away ?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I tend to think that services and supports are very important, because at this time I receive neither (in USA), but know I need help with living conditions and socialization.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;LR and MB get a nice juicy Raspberry from me, for keeping their issues/goals in the way, and keeping needy people still needy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

cpu52362,I couldn&#039;t agree with you more.I would love to be able to try the adult version of ABA,that has been used in recent years,to see if it would help me develop any social skills.Yet this is used on such a limited basis,at least here in the US,that most adults will never have this opportunity.lb/rb has not spoken up enough about this,or taken an official position,so I don&#039;t know how many here would approve of it,or an alternative form of therapy.There is a lot of criticism of ABA,but not enough putting forth suggestions of alternatives,especially for adults.

Relationship Development Intervention,is one method bloggers like Michelle Dawson seems to promote,but Dr.Gustein does not seem to allow peer reviewed studies of it to be done,to see if it is indeed better than ABA.Pushing for such studies,as well as the expanded use of such therapies in adults,whatever they may be,ought to be one of the top priorities of blogs like lb/rb,or Ms. Dawson&#039;s &quot;The Autism Crisis&quot; blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is why is lb/rb,or any blog that wants to take itself seriously,still blogging about vaccines,and antivaxers?Ms. Redwood&#8217;s paper was published in 2004,many of us have moved on since then.If there is a population of diehards out there,like Age of Autism,or <span class="caps">JABS</span>,that want to keep scientifically unproven claims alive,what possible good does it to to keep paying attention to their tired old claims,or even more fantastic new ones ?</p>
<p>Far too much time,labor,and funding has been wasted proving thimerosol does not cause autism.Why can&#8217;t everybody just ignore the antivaxer flat earth society,and see if they eventually go away ?</p>
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<blockquote>I tend to think that services and supports are very important, because at this time I receive neither (in <span class="caps">USA</span>), but know I need help with living conditions and socialization.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote>LR and MB get a nice juicy Raspberry from me, for keeping their issues/goals in the way, and keeping needy people still needy.</p></blockquote>
<p>cpu52362,I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more.I would love to be able to try the adult version of <span class="caps">ABA</span>,that has been used in recent years,to see if it would help me develop any social skills.Yet this is used on such a limited basis,at least here in the US,that most adults will never have this opportunity.lb/rb has not spoken up enough about this,or taken an official position,so I don&#8217;t know how many here would approve of it,or an alternative form of therapy.There is a lot of criticism of <span class="caps">ABA</span>,but not enough putting forth suggestions of alternatives,especially for adults.</p>
<p>Relationship Development Intervention,is one method bloggers like Michelle Dawson seems to promote,but Dr.Gustein does not seem to allow peer reviewed studies of it to be done,to see if it is indeed better than <span class="caps">ABA</span>.Pushing for such studies,as well as the expanded use of such therapies in adults,whatever they may be,ought to be one of the top priorities of blogs like lb/rb,or Ms. Dawson&#8217;s &#8220;The Autism Crisis&#8221; blog.</p>
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		<title>By: cpu52362</title>
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		<dc:creator>cpu52362</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to think that services and supports are very important, because at this time I receive neither (in USA), but know I need help with living conditions and socialization.

LR and MB get a nice juicy Raspberry from me, for keeping their issues/goals in the way, and keeping needy people still needy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to think that services and supports are very important, because at this time I receive neither (in <span class="caps">USA</span>), but know I need help with living conditions and socialization.</p>
<p>LR and MB get a nice juicy Raspberry from me, for keeping their issues/goals in the way, and keeping needy people still needy.</p>
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