Woman and child hurt in HBOT explosion

1 May

CBS4 is reporting that a woman and child have been hurt in a HBOT Chamber explosion.

There is no indication that the child was receiving HBOT as part of ‘treatment’ for autism. In fact, there’s no indication the clinic in question practice HBOT for autism at all.

Or thats what I thought until I read this page. Recognise the lead name there?

Dr. Rashid Buttar, D.O., FAAPM, FACAM, FAAIM
Broken Pathway in Autism: The Mercury Poisoning of our Children and Their Inability to Detoxify

The very same Rashid Buttar who I wrote about in 2006? Yes. The same Rashid Buttar who has been subject to numerous disciplinary hearings? Yes.

The owners of this HBOT installation describe Buttar as ‘forward thinking’. Hmm.

And so, I have to wonder – was this child autistic and undergoing a totally pointless HBOT session when the chamber exploded? Time will tell..

EDIT

Orlando Sentinel say:

The boy was flown to Broward General Medical Center. Broward Sheriff Fire-Rescue spokesman Mike Jachles said the boy was badly burned and is in critical condition.

If you’re a praying person, then pray for this boy. If you’re not, then hope for the best outcome.

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19 Responses to “Woman and child hurt in HBOT explosion”

  1. Sullivan May 1, 2009 at 19:24 #

    Kev,

    they certainly are involved with autism

    http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/profiles/new_page_2.htm

  2. Kev May 1, 2009 at 19:39 #

    My my, even the mighty powers of Google fail occasionally it seems ;) Thanks Sully.

  3. huriyamanzar May 1, 2009 at 19:48 #

    Awful! So sorry for the poor kid.. the doctor should be thrown in jail

  4. Kev May 1, 2009 at 19:51 #

    Might not be anyones fault :) – lets see how the story shakes out.

  5. lizditz May 1, 2009 at 19:56 #

    Evidently the child was badly burned, the woman (who does not seem to be his mother) less so.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/sfl-hyperbaric-explosion-bn050109,0,5237340.story?track=rss

    A Broward Sheriff’s deputy who was first on the scene found the boy in a hyperbaric chamber on the first floor. There was a fire, but Jachles could not say whether it was in or out of the chamber. He also did not know whether the fire or explosion started in the chamber.

    “They brought him out on a stretcher. His skin was blackened,” said Nicole Huffman, a dental assistant at Sierra Dental on the top floor of the three-story building.

  6. daedalus2u May 1, 2009 at 20:20 #

    Pure oxygen is extremely dangerous. Virtually everything not made out of ceramic will burn vigorously.

    If this happened in one of those inflatable pressure chambers, who ever put them in it and used oxygen in a non-oxygen rated piece of equipment is at fault.

  7. Sullivan May 1, 2009 at 20:54 #

    daedalus2u:

    The group’s website shows hard chambers, not the balloons.

    One possible problem involves the use of electronics within chambers. This clinic appears to have TV’s outside the chamber. Check this video-

    http://www.oceanhbo.com/client/studies/studies.htm

    Check at about 3:50s.

    This setup is consistent with the child be harmed more than the adult. The child is sitting on the adult’s lap. In case of a fire, the child would shield the adult somewhat.

  8. autismherd May 1, 2009 at 21:20 #

    Thats just awful. I hope that he will be alright.

  9. cpu52362 May 1, 2009 at 22:08 #

    I hope the child is not hurt too badly, and that the additional care now required for the burns will be fiscally covered by the establishment/entities offering the therapy. I also hope they perform a thorough review of the cause(s) of this patient safety failure.

  10. me.yahoo.com/a/TuRz.joYnfzpKUWMPSYwTtN6HTLFunmLzPblUMkn May 2, 2009 at 00:32 #

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    “If you’re a praying person, then pray for this boy. If you’re not, then hope for the best outcome.”

    Isnt that the same as saying if you believe in a non-scientifically proven autism treatment then pray that it works?

    Your statement suggests that the power of belief can affect medical outcomes.

    However the general message on this site is that beliefs do not affect medical outcomes e.g. in autism and are ferociously condemned. Somewhat hypocritical.

  11. Kev May 2, 2009 at 01:34 #

    Yeah, thats the important thing. You got me.

  12. lisanavi May 2, 2009 at 02:10 #

    Perhaps it’s the power of belief, rather than the non scientifically proven treatment that causes them to work on the few that they do help, anecdotally. If that’s the case, not specifically hypothetical. I’ll stick with praying scientifically proven treatments will help my son. ;) I’ll try a few crackpot theories that don’t appear harmless (sensory therapy is technically not yet scientifically proven, either, and my boy is sensory seeking so he enjoys it.)

  13. lisanavi May 2, 2009 at 02:11 #

    er that do appear harmless. typo. I think I was thing that don’t appear to hurt and decided harmless was a better word…

  14. lisanavi May 2, 2009 at 02:12 #

    and not specifically hypocritical. facepalm. I can’t type today. (this kind of not proof reading gets me in trouble at work, too. oddly enough. hehe. well I did proof read it, just didn’t do a good enough job.)

  15. me.yahoo.com/a/LV4Y8PAmhPwd6NRYLWoWw86cyI6l May 3, 2009 at 03:46 #

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    One spark does not = boom.

    To have a fire you need fuel, heat and oxygen in the needed ratio to = fire

    The hyperbaric enviroment compressed with 100% oxygen (mono place) is more dangerous than the multi-place enviroment which compresses with air 21% oxygen and the oxygen is delivered via some type of breathing device often a hood or BIBS.

    There is nothing about the mono place chamber that would cause a fire because there is no electrical equipment associated with the mono place chamber. If proper protocol is followed and certain items are kept from entering chamber. Bedding that is at least 51% cotton, no petroleum based products, alcohol based products… essentially anything that you weren’t born with short of cotton is restricted.

    A static spark is only dangerous if an item with a relatively low flash point (the point at which a material reaches the needed temperature to release a fuel that can ignite) is allowed into chamber. For example gasoline has a flash point of roughly -40 degrees fahrenheit so if this item was allowed in chamber (not saying it was this is an example) then a static spark could easily ignite something in the chamber.

    At the center I run nothing is allowed in chamber that has a flash point of under 400 degrees fahrenheit there for even if there is a static discharge it doesn’t have enough energy to both take the cotton blanket to it’s flash point and ignite the item.

    Further the explosion short of some defect in the chamber is avoidable if the chamber is brought to surface prior to the temperature driving the pressure past the maximum operating capacity of the chamber….

    Lots of question surrounding this situation that I’m sure the UHMS will answer

    Grease or petroleum based products may have a relatively low “flash point” the point at which the item gives off a gas that requires very little energy to combust.
    Thus if the chamber grounding patch (if it was used) falls off and a static discharge occurs you have a fuel at it’s flash point and the static discharge is sufficient to cause the fire.

    Hairsprays, Gels, Dyes, fake hair, fake nails, nail polish, lighters, matches, pagers, cell phones, any type of electronic devices, battery operated devices, some medicated patches, implanted devices like Defibrillators must be cleared for pressure, street clothes, bra’s, under wear, deodorant, anti per-spirant, calogne, perfume, after shave, velcro, pens, paper, etc etc
    Water based dressings like hydrogel, cotton poly blends that are at least 51% cotton, obviously cotton, paper tape and what you were born with are about it.

    Also titanium jewelry is prohibited for use because titanium gets it’s unique color due to an oxidation process that produces a significant amount of heat. Titanium jewelry is prohibited because if the jewelry or titanium glasses break the fresh titanium exposed will go through an oxidation process that produces enough heat that could easily ignite a fire in the chamber.

    Hyperbaric medicine is effective and completely safe if administered properly.

    A spark alone will not create a fire if prohibited items are kept from entering the chamber.

    A spark on the outside of the chamber will not start a fire inside the chamber. NONE.

    Explosions are avoidable if the chamber hasn’t been compromised.

    If a fire starts in chamber your goal is to decompress the chamber back to surface prior to the temperature driving the pressure beyond the chamber’s ability to remain in tact.

    Medicare guidelines dictates Direct Supervision by a physician meaning in the same office suite but not in the chamber room

    They also dictate a technician being in constant verbal and visual contact with the patient during their entire treatment so if a fire does start they can decompress prior to explosion.

    They are also supposed to have a secondary breathing device (SCUBA/AIR PACK) so they can extricate the patient from chamber and not become asphyxiated by the smoke.

    Oxygen accelerates combustion but simply putting gasoline in the chamber won’t cause a fire.

    You need fuel, heat and oxygen in the needed ratio to create a fire. This is why so many items are prohibited from chamber.

    In closing Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is 100% safe if administered appropriately and safety protocols are in place and followed.

    Hyperbaric medicine is very effective for the 13-15 medicare identified indications that range from CO poisoning, diabetic lower extremity wounds, gas gangrene, radiation injuries etc

    Some of these off label clinics don’t follow proper protocols and don’t have the same regulations that UHMS accreditited facilities have.

  16. me.yahoo.com/a/LV4Y8PAmhPwd6NRYLWoWw86cyI6l May 3, 2009 at 04:04 #

    For people that are thinking of this type of treatment please understand that this treatment is completely safe if administered correctly and safety guidelines are followed.

    I would suggest going to UHMS.org to view a list of accreditited centers that are routinely surveyed for safety practices and appropriate staffing and care.

    If you are unable to go to an accreditited facility I would suggest asking many, many questions of non accreditited facilities.

    Look at their emergency procedures

    Ask to see their staff’s qualifications and if they don’t have Certified Hyperbaric Technologists on staff I wouldn’t allow them to treat my child.

    Also if they allow anything to go into chamber other than cotton blankets, cotton gowns etc I would not let them treat my child.

    This therapy can be 100% safe and free of accidents such as this that are almost always fatal.

  17. Sullivan May 4, 2009 at 20:52 #

    “Hyperbaric medicine is effective and completely safe if administered properly.”

    That is too vague. Effective for what? For autism, the data are pretty unconvincing. For CP? I haven’t looked as closely, but it doesn’t look convincing either.

    Completely safe? There have been zero adverse reactions?

  18. me.yahoo.com/a/LV4Y8PAmhPwd6NRYLWoWw86cyI6l May 6, 2009 at 13:41 #

    My apologies.

    Hyperbaric medicine is very effective in treating one of the 13 accepted indications recognized by Medicare and the UHMS.

    With regard to Autism, Stroke, Brain Injury, CP etc I agree completely that there is no meaningful scientific data that suggest HBOT is a cure or even a treatment to better quality of life.

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