Comments on: FBI and IRS shut quack clinics

By: Sullivan

Sullivan — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:54:18 +0000

Unable,

that is very interesting information.

You are welcome to contact me (sullivansjourney@gmail.com) if you have any more information to share.

By: Joseph

Joseph — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:58:24 +0000

Al Capone was indicted for income tax evasion.

One would hope they got the CARE clinics for medical fraud, but that’s probably too much to ask for.

By: Unable

Unable — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:07:28 +0000

Upon doing a search for Kazuko’s name I was surprised to find my words quoted on this website. I am said former employee. The FBI and IRS raided the clinic because of insurance fraud and tax evasion. She had arrangements with labs to pay a fixed fee for lab testing, then charged the insurance companies 10x that amount. She justified it by saying she was helping children but it is hard to believe when you saw the amount of shopping she did. Everyone was pressured to receive testing (parents, other children, employees) because that was where she made her money.
It is unfortunate that so many people out there see how to make a quick buck and take advantage of people wanting to do ANYTHING to help their child.

By: Terry Stottle (Ari's brother)

Terry Stottle (Ari's brother) — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:25:57 +0000

Sullivan asks:

“How do they find that “nearly all of the children” have heavy metal toxicity, when good scientists and actual medical toxicologists don’t find this to be the case at all?”

How do Arthur Krigsman and Andrew Wakefield find that “nearly all the children” have bowel inflammation?

These folk will one day drown in an ocean of lawsuits.

By: Clay

Clay — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:56:13 +0000

Ah well, according to Jake, his mum had fillings, which totally screwed up his life! This is the whole reason why he “just can’t think right”, according to Best. Pitiful, ain’t it?

By: Sullivan

Sullivan — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:39:46 +0000

Jake,

hence the word “apparantly”.

Criminal charges are not filed. Civil charges have been.

There are many people who are legally innocent that I would avoid in business and medicine. I didn’t need to have the IRS and FBI raid this clinic to realize it is one I would avoid. My kid isn’t being hooked up to an IV in order to cure false “heavy metal poisoning”.

By: Jake

Jake — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:21:00 +0000

“But, apparantly they were cheating their employees. Apparantly they were cheating the government.”

The IRS seizing records does not amount to guilt. No charges are currently filed and if they are the presumption in the United States of America is that one is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY in a court of law.

By: Sullivan

Sullivan — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:38:51 +0000

Here is a quote from their website:

“The CARE Clinics team takes special care to measure heavy metals in the blood, urine, hair and stool. As nearly all of the children have heavy metal toxicity, we utilize gentle but effective treatments to detoxify these metals from the children and follow your child’s progress with these tests.”

How do they find that “nearly all of the children” have heavy metal toxicity, when good scientists and actual medical toxicologists don’t find this to be the case at all?

By: Sullivan

Sullivan — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:25:04 +0000

I won’t speak for Anthony, but—
It is not implied anywhere that all alt-med clinics are guilty of insurance fraud and/or tax fraud. Nor that they were raided because they were using alternative (and, let’s face it, unsound) treatments. Unfortunately, people can perform chelation in the United States, claiming it is a treatment for autism, and no one can say no.

But, apparantly they were cheating their employees. Apparantly they were cheating the government. They were charging very large fees for testing ($8,500). Assuming all this is true, I would not be at all surprised to find out that they were not completely honest with their clients—either in how much they were charging for services, or for calling for extra services, or for calling for services that are not called for.

My guess is that they were using “challenge” chelation tests. If so, that is just plain dishonest. It is about time someone got sued for that—maybe this is the time.

Let’s face it, they are doing IV chelation as a “treatment” for autism. That is charging people money for a therapy that has no bearing in science or medicine, exposing children to potential harmful side effects, and charging parents and/or insurance for the privilege. Illegal? Maybe not. Dishonest? Yes.

By: MJ

MJ — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:06:23 +0000

I may just be confused but I don’t see the relation between alternative treatments for autism and being raided by the FBI and IRS.

Are you seriously trying to say that the reason that they were shut down by the IRS was because of their medical practices because I don’t think that happens.

Or are you trying to say that the FBI raided them because they used chelation? That isn’t likely to happen either unless they are causing serious harm and killing people – which doesn’t seem to be the case either.

Or are you trying to imply that everyone who provides alternative treatments for autism are going to commit insurance fraud and not pay their taxes? I don’t think there is enough evidence to say that either – insurance fraud is a common enough problem among all types of health care providers not just alternative ones.

So what is it exactly that you are trying to say?