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	<title>Comments on: Sugar-coaters and Straight Talkers: Communicating About Developmental Delays in Primary Care</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Stanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diagnosis is a signpost not a label. It should set you off in the right direction to help your child. I think a lot of the despair among parents arises when the diagnoses is presented not as a signpost but as Journey&#039;s End.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diagnosis is a signpost not a label. It should set you off in the right direction to help your child. I think a lot of the despair among parents arises when the diagnoses is presented not as a signpost but as Journey&#8217;s End.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think too many people get stuck on the label. There are a lot of parents who avoid seeing specialists because they don&#039;t want a word attached to their child. I think that this &quot;fear&quot; actually hurts the kids.

I think having the label is important, because it allows you to get what they need to be successful in school and in life. And isn&#039;t that the most important thing here, giving our kids what they need as quickly as possible. 

There are ways to be direct and say, &quot;I think your child needs to see x doctor&quot; without going outside of your expertise and saying things like &quot;your child won&#039;t ever ______&quot;. 

(Unless you have a ped who also happens to be psychic- but even then there are too many cases of children doing things they were told they wouldn&#039;t be able to.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think too many people get stuck on the label. There are a lot of parents who avoid seeing specialists because they don&#8217;t want a word attached to their child. I think that this &#8220;fear&#8221; actually hurts the kids.</p>
<p>I think having the label is important, because it allows you to get what they need to be successful in school and in life. And isn&#8217;t that the most important thing here, giving our kids what they need as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>There are ways to be direct and say, &#8220;I think your child needs to see x doctor&#8221; without going outside of your expertise and saying things like &#8220;your child won&#8217;t ever <i></i>__&#8221;.</p>
<p>(Unless you have a ped who also happens to be psychic- but even then there are too many cases of children doing things they were told they wouldn&#8217;t be able to.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One thing that interested me is that looked to me as if the recommendations for straight-talk came from the “been there/done that” group (the EI parents). It seems to me that this group has the more informed perspective on what one REALLY ends up wanting when the rubber hits the road.&lt;blockquote&gt;

JoyMama--

I totally agree.</description>
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<blockquote>One thing that interested me is that looked to me as if the recommendations for straight-talk came from the &#8220;been there/done that&#8221; group (the EI parents). It seems to me that this group has the more informed perspective on what one <span class="caps">REALLY</span> ends up wanting when the rubber hits the road.<br />
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<p>JoyMama&#8212;<br />
I totally agree.</p>
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		<title>By: JoyMama</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoyMama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that interested me is that looked to me as if the recommendations for straight-talk came from the &quot;been there/done that&quot; group (the EI parents).  It seems to me that this group has the more informed perspective on what one REALLY ends up wanting when the rubber hits the road.  The non-EI parents are just conjecturing, trying to imagine themselves into a situation that hasn&#039;t happened.  Living through it is often different than what we might imagine beforehand...

I only lately became aware of how very recent the AAP recommendation is for using validated screening tools for developmental delays at early-childhood pediatric well-checks.  Our pediatrician&#039;s office was doing this already in 2002 when I had my first child, and I just assumed this was what most clinics would do. It was SO valuable in helping to catch my second child&#039;s delays, very early on.  More pediatricians need to be doing this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that interested me is that looked to me as if the recommendations for straight-talk came from the &#8220;been there/done that&#8221; group (the EI parents).  It seems to me that this group has the more informed perspective on what one <span class="caps">REALLY</span> ends up wanting when the rubber hits the road.  The non-EI parents are just conjecturing, trying to imagine themselves into a situation that hasn&#8217;t happened.  Living through it is often different than what we might imagine beforehand&#8230;</p>
<p>I only lately became aware of how very recent the <span class="caps">AAP</span> recommendation is for using validated screening tools for developmental delays at early-childhood pediatric well-checks.  Our pediatrician&#8217;s office was doing this already in 2002 when I had my first child, and I just assumed this was what most clinics would do. It was SO valuable in helping to catch my second child&#8217;s delays, very early on.  More pediatricians need to be doing this!</p>
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		<title>By: chaoticidealism</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaoticidealism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really can&#039;t make that many predictions when a child is very young. Telling a parent what a three year old will be capable of as an adult, or even as a five-year-old, is little more than guesswork and can be very harmful!

Predicting future skills from pre-school delays is silly. But acknowledging said preschool delays, along with the possibility of staying delayed despite increasing skills, or of catching up or passing typical peers, is extremely important. Early delays aren&#039;t set in stone, it&#039;s important to make parents aware of the fact that this is simply not so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really can&#8217;t make that many predictions when a child is very young. Telling a parent what a three year old will be capable of as an adult, or even as a five-year-old, is little more than guesswork and can be very harmful!</p>
<p>Predicting future skills from pre-school delays is silly. But acknowledging said preschool delays, along with the possibility of staying delayed despite increasing skills, or of catching up or passing typical peers, is extremely important. Early delays aren&#8217;t set in stone, it&#8217;s important to make parents aware of the fact that this is simply not so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like add that there is straight talking and then there is straight talking. Some people seem to use &#039;talking straight&#039; as an excuse for being blunt to the point of rudeness, whereas it is possible to convey information clearly but with regard for the feelings of those hearing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like add that there is straight talking and then there is straight talking. Some people seem to use &#8216;talking straight&#8217; as an excuse for being blunt to the point of rudeness, whereas it is possible to convey information clearly but with regard for the feelings of those hearing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Leila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son&#039;s pediatrician (Primary Care) didn&#039;t want to alarm me but he tried to refer my son to a thorough evaluation by a specialist early on (2 years old), but his request was denied by the Medical Group and Insurance, because there wasn&#039;t enough evidence of autism. He was seen by a speech pathologist within the medical group at 2 1/2 and she thought his speech delay was nothing to worry about. Finally my husband and I stumbled upon some information about &quot;red flags&quot; online and a lot of them were symptoms my son had. Then we wrote a report with all those autism symptoms comparing them to my son&#039;s behaviors, and armed with that the pediatrician was finally able to put the referral through. He was diagnosed with ASD at 34 months old. Services started 3 months later because I worked really hard to accelerate the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son&#8217;s pediatrician (Primary Care) didn&#8217;t want to alarm me but he tried to refer my son to a thorough evaluation by a specialist early on (2 years old), but his request was denied by the Medical Group and Insurance, because there wasn&#8217;t enough evidence of autism. He was seen by a speech pathologist within the medical group at 2 1/2 and she thought his speech delay was nothing to worry about. Finally my husband and I stumbled upon some information about &#8220;red flags&#8221; online and a lot of them were symptoms my son had. Then we wrote a report with all those autism symptoms comparing them to my son&#8217;s behaviors, and armed with that the pediatrician was finally able to put the referral through. He was diagnosed with <span class="caps">ASD</span> at 34 months old. Services started 3 months later because I worked really hard to accelerate the process.</p>
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		<title>By: farmwifetwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>farmwifetwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the straight talk version and the straight labelling. Eldest was given mild-PDD first at 2.5yrs and we were given the &quot;your kid will amount to nothing&quot; sheets to read (my description for them) and told &quot;go talk to the IBI (ABA) people&quot;. Who&#039;s program he didn&#039;t qualify for anyways b/c they only take the severe kids. 

That was the problem, no follow up on what to do next. Luckily having been to the audiologist first we were involved in the Prov Pd speech and language program. And truly by fluke and forth hand listening to someone at a &quot;do&quot; I started making calls and totally fluked and found Community Living and my FSW.

The other problem with the wait and see&#039;s and sugar coated dx&#039;s is when we went back at 3 and he had a few words they changed it to &quot;speech and language delayed with global delays&quot;. The school LOVED this one. &quot;It&#039;s just a learning disability we don&#039;t have to do anything until Gr 3&quot;.

Call it what it is. Call it what will get you supports in school. Use it to get the services you need.

I was offered a re-dx last fall to mild NLD.... thanks but &quot;A mild form of ASD&quot; is the same and with ASD in the dx we keep the services. Without &quot;it&#039;s just a learning disability&quot; bye bye OT and EA/TA.

In the &quot;epic&quot; I wrote to the Fed&#039;s (all parties) and have sent to all of our team members I have written the &quot;what to do next&quot;. I&#039;ve had requests from all (team members not gov&#039;t) - since I wrote on it they couldn&#039;t copy it - to use the &quot;what to do next&quot; section to give to others in their practices. The answer of course was &quot;Yes&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the straight talk version and the straight labelling. Eldest was given mild-PDD first at 2.5yrs and we were given the &#8220;your kid will amount to nothing&#8221; sheets to read (my description for them) and told &#8220;go talk to the <span class="caps">IBI </span>(ABA) people&#8221;. Who&#8217;s program he didn&#8217;t qualify for anyways b/c they only take the severe kids.</p>
<p>That was the problem, no follow up on what to do next. Luckily having been to the audiologist first we were involved in the Prov Pd speech and language program. And truly by fluke and forth hand listening to someone at a &#8220;do&#8221; I started making calls and totally fluked and found Community Living and my <span class="caps">FSW</span>.</p>
<p>The other problem with the wait and see&#8217;s and sugar coated dx&#8217;s is when we went back at 3 and he had a few words they changed it to &#8220;speech and language delayed with global delays&#8221;. The school <span class="caps">LOVED</span> this one. &#8220;It&#8217;s just a learning disability we don&#8217;t have to do anything until Gr 3&#8221;.</p>
<p>Call it what it is. Call it what will get you supports in school. Use it to get the services you need.</p>
<p>I was offered a re-dx last fall to mild <span class="caps">NLD</span>&#8230;. thanks but &#8220;A mild form of <span class="caps">ASD</span>&#8221; is the same and with <span class="caps">ASD</span> in the dx we keep the services. Without &#8220;it&#8217;s just a learning disability&#8221; bye bye OT and EA/TA.</p>
<p>In the &#8220;epic&#8221; I wrote to the Fed&#8217;s (all parties) and have sent to all of our team members I have written the &#8220;what to do next&#8221;. I&#8217;ve had requests from all (team members not gov&#8217;t) &#8211; since I wrote on it they couldn&#8217;t copy it &#8211; to use the &#8220;what to do next&#8221; section to give to others in their practices. The answer of course was &#8220;Yes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parents are all so different....I just read a comment from a woman who said &quot;We just received the dreaded &quot;A&quot; bomb today from the developmental pediatrican.&quot; I don&#039;t know what the Dr. told her but that&#039;s what she&#039;s telling people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parents are all so different&#8230;.I just read a comment from a woman who said &#8220;We just received the dreaded &#8220;A&#8221; bomb today from the developmental pediatrican.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know what the Dr. told her but that&#8217;s what she&#8217;s telling people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be inclined to the straight-talk approach than the sugar-coating, but I would also advise against unlabeled prognoses.  For example, when my first son was diagnosed with autism the doctor said many things like &quot;He will never talk.  He will never practice pretend play.&quot;  He described a litany of things my son would never do, and aside from living independently as an adult (he&#039;s ten) he&#039;s done all of them.

A diagnosis has implications of what may happen, but the prognosis is distinct from the diagnosis and the important thing to me is the doctor be clear about the difference.

As for the &quot;wait and see&quot; approach, there&#039;s often more than enough waiting during the diagnosis process and more waiting for services to begin once the diagnosis has been procured.  With all the emphasis on early intervention being a key factor in skills-building, the &quot;wait and see&quot; approach seems out-dated and counter-productive to me.  A better solution for the over-burdened system would be to create literature or other forms of training for parents to use to help children with mild delays on their own and keep the more expensive services to consultation visits.  If that doesn&#039;t work, then provide them with trained service providers.  I would say it&#039;s better to know and to be able to do something instead of waiting for potential problems to become more severe.  A booklet and training video would be cheap enough to produce and distribute and could potentially save whichever government uses it from the need to provide more costly services later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be inclined to the straight-talk approach than the sugar-coating, but I would also advise against unlabeled prognoses.  For example, when my first son was diagnosed with autism the doctor said many things like &#8220;He will never talk.  He will never practice pretend play.&#8221;  He described a litany of things my son would never do, and aside from living independently as an adult (he&#8217;s ten) he&#8217;s done all of them.</p>
<p>A diagnosis has implications of what may happen, but the prognosis is distinct from the diagnosis and the important thing to me is the doctor be clear about the difference.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;wait and see&#8221; approach, there&#8217;s often more than enough waiting during the diagnosis process and more waiting for services to begin once the diagnosis has been procured.  With all the emphasis on early intervention being a key factor in skills-building, the &#8220;wait and see&#8221; approach seems out-dated and counter-productive to me.  A better solution for the over-burdened system would be to create literature or other forms of training for parents to use to help children with mild delays on their own and keep the more expensive services to consultation visits.  If that doesn&#8217;t work, then provide them with trained service providers.  I would say it&#8217;s better to know and to be able to do something instead of waiting for potential problems to become more severe.  A booklet and training video would be cheap enough to produce and distribute and could potentially save whichever government uses it from the need to provide more costly services later.</p>
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