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		<title>By: Celebrities and Science 2010</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-121533</link>
		<dc:creator>Celebrities and Science 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 01:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] celebrities can be more uninformed than your average man (or woman)-on-the-street.  Some, like Jenny McCarthy, do real harm in their misguided zeal, although in most cases, the advice they give is simply [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] celebrities can be&#160;more&#160;uninformed than your average man (or woman)-on-the-street.&#160; Some, like Jenny McCarthy, do real harm in their misguided zeal, although in most cases, the advice they give is simply [...]</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79405</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;Blockquote&gt;The amount of mercury in this vaccine (and in thimerosal in general) is equivalent to what a 190 lbs adult male’s body may tolerate.&lt;/Blockquote&gt;

Ah, is this the problem? It seems that you don&#039;t have even the slightest knowledge of regulatory toxicology regarding how safety factors are established, and you&#039;re confusing doses that can be given without any adverse effect every day of your life for seventy years to the dose given on a single day.</description>
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<blockquote>The amount of mercury in this vaccine (and in thimerosal in general) is equivalent to what a 190 lbs adult male&#8217;s body may tolerate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, is this the problem? It seems that you don&#8217;t have even the slightest knowledge of regulatory toxicology regarding how safety factors are established, and you&#8217;re confusing doses that can be given without any adverse effect every day of your life for seventy years to the dose given on a single day.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79403</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And why if thimerosal is so common in vaccines, why did they have to &lt;b&gt;add&lt;/b&gt; it to vaccines in the two primate studies?  The one done by Burbacher (which is why Sallie Bernard was looking for some), and the now retracted Wakefield Neurotoxicity paper.  

These were both sponsored by anti-vaccine groups.  If thimerosal is the cause, why couldn&#039;t they find the evil thimerosal containing vaccines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why if thimerosal is so common in vaccines, why did they have to <b>add</b> it to vaccines in the two primate studies?  The one done by Burbacher (which is why Sallie Bernard was looking for some), and the now retracted Wakefield Neurotoxicity paper.</p>
<p>These were both sponsored by anti-vaccine groups.  If thimerosal is the cause, why couldn&#8217;t they find the evil thimerosal containing vaccines?</p>
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		<title>By: Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79399</link>
		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I had a different link, but same idea-

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

There are no HepB vaccines with anything above trace amounts of Thimerosal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I had a different link, but same idea-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pu.....able-2.pdf</a></p>
<p>There are no HepB vaccines with anything above trace amounts of Thimerosal.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79393</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why did Sallie Bernard fail to find any for a study in 2001?  Why did they have to add thimerosal to the HepB vaccine used on the primates for the Wakefield paper that was withdrawn from the Neurotoxicity journal? (&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://photoninthedarkness.com/?p=178&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The infants were given either a thimerosal-containing hepatitis B vaccine (they had to add the thimerosal themselves)...&lt;/a&gt;&quot;)

You seem to be a little fact impaired. Vaccines are not injected in to the blood vein.  

Plus, from this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/ucm096228.htm#t1+&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;page&lt;/a&gt; shows the content of thimerosal in a the Hepatitis B vaccine: 	
Recombivax HB,(Merck &amp; Co, Inc),Free 	08/27/99 (date of approved)
and
Engerix B(GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals),	Free,	03/28/00, approval date for thimerosal-free formulation 1/30/2007

Here is an idea, try persuading us with some real data and facts.  Tell us when your daughter was born, and the manufacturer of the vaccine with documentation of the level of thimerosal it contained.  Also, be sure to tell us what actual evidence you have that supports your contention that thimerosal in vaccines is harmful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why did Sallie Bernard fail to find any for a study in 2001?  Why did they have to add thimerosal to the HepB vaccine used on the primates for the Wakefield paper that was withdrawn from the Neurotoxicity journal? (&#8220;<a href="http://photoninthedarkness.com/?p=178" rel="nofollow">The infants were given either a thimerosal-containing hepatitis B vaccine (they had to add the thimerosal themselves)...</a>&#8220;)</p>
<p>You seem to be a little fact impaired. Vaccines are not injected in to the blood vein.</p>
<p>Plus, from this <a href="http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/ucm096228.htm#t1+" rel="nofollow">page</a> shows the content of thimerosal in a the Hepatitis B vaccine:<br />
Recombivax HB,(Merck &#038; Co, Inc),Free 08/27/99 (date of approved)<br />
and<br />
Engerix B(GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals),Free,03/28/00, approval date for thimerosal-free formulation 1/30/2007</p>
<p>Here is an idea, try persuading us with some real data and facts.  Tell us when your daughter was born, and the manufacturer of the vaccine with documentation of the level of thimerosal it contained.  Also, be sure to tell us what actual evidence you have that supports your contention that thimerosal in vaccines is harmful.</p>
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		<title>By: a.</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79378</link>
		<dc:creator>a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ScienceMom (and others), my experience is that you are very much wrong when you claim that thimerosal has been removed from typical pediatric vaccines. At least in Texas, where our daughter was born, they offered the Hepatitis-B vaccine to all newborns. This vaccine, which we unfortunately allowed the hospital to give to our daughter, does indeed contain thimerosal. I presume the same, or similar, vaccine is used across the nation.

The amount of mercury in this vaccine (and in thimerosal in general)  is equivalent to what a 190 lbs adult male&#039;s body may tolerate. Imagine then the fragility of a newborn baby who&#039;s immune system is at its earliest stage. The mercury is injected directly into the babies&#039; blood vain, and therefore bypasses any defense mechanism that their bodies have. Please don&#039;t compare this to eating a can of tuna (or related food) containing mercury. It&#039;s far from being the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ScienceMom (and others), my experience is that you are very much wrong when you claim that thimerosal has been removed from typical pediatric vaccines. At least in Texas, where our daughter was born, they offered the Hepatitis-B vaccine to all newborns. This vaccine, which we unfortunately allowed the hospital to give to our daughter, does indeed contain thimerosal. I presume the same, or similar, vaccine is used across the nation.</p>
<p>The amount of mercury in this vaccine (and in thimerosal in general)  is equivalent to what a 190 lbs adult male&#8217;s body may tolerate. Imagine then the fragility of a newborn baby who&#8217;s immune system is at its earliest stage. The mercury is injected directly into the babies&#8217; blood vain, and therefore bypasses any defense mechanism that their bodies have. Please don&#8217;t compare this to eating a can of tuna (or related food) containing mercury. It&#8217;s far from being the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Science Mom</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79120</link>
		<dc:creator>Science Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Despite the efforts of the past five years it is unclear with all the flu vaccination push if the total dose of thimerosal being injected into children may even be increasing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Paul, Thimerosal has been out of U.S. paediatric vaccines since 2001.  Thimerosal-free influenza vaccines stocks have, at the same time, been increasing so that they comprise the majority.  Thimerosal-free influenza vaccines are given to children under 3 years old and pregnant women although the uptake is very low in both groups.  So how you can claim that thimerosal is increasing is rather disingenuous.  The only exception was with this past year&#039;s H1N1 vaccine, but again, thimerosal-free preference was given to pregnant women and young children.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Just get the darn thimerosal out of the vaccines, then we can revisit the autism/thimerosal question in three years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s been done in the U.S. and also done decades earlier in the EU so we have had several years, not just a few of observing ASD rates continue to rise.  You are beating a dead horse.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh my, if the refrigerator mother hypothesis is not scientific, then why has it been all over the “peer-reviewed medical literature”. Surely this constitutes the basis of science upon which we debate. Where, Chris, is the retraction, where in the literature is the repudiation of this “not scientific” theory, or for that matter the apology for blaming autism on the sexual frigidity of the mother.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have much to learn about the scientific method.  Bettleheim&#039;s hypothesis has been refuted and his hypothesis wasn&#039;t forged, like one notable &#039;researcher&#039; recently in the news.  So there is no need for retraction; more rigorous science replaced his, that&#039;s how it works.</description>
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<blockquote>Despite the efforts of the past five years it is unclear with all the flu vaccination push if the total dose of thimerosal being injected into children may even be increasing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul, Thimerosal has been out of U.S. paediatric vaccines since 2001.  Thimerosal-free influenza vaccines stocks have, at the same time, been increasing so that they comprise the majority.  Thimerosal-free influenza vaccines are given to children under 3 years old and pregnant women although the uptake is very low in both groups.  So how you can claim that thimerosal is increasing is rather disingenuous.  The only exception was with this past year&#8217;s <span class="caps">H1N1</span> vaccine, but again, thimerosal-free preference was given to pregnant women and young children.</p>
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<blockquote>Just get the darn thimerosal out of the vaccines, then we can revisit the autism/thimerosal question in three years.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s been done in the U.S. and also done decades earlier in the EU so we have had several years, not just a few of observing <span class="caps">ASD</span> rates continue to rise.  You are beating a dead horse.</p>
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<blockquote>Oh my, if the refrigerator mother hypothesis is not scientific, then why has it been all over the &#8220;peer-reviewed medical literature&#8221;. Surely this constitutes the basis of science upon which we debate. Where, Chris, is the retraction, where in the literature is the repudiation of this &#8220;not scientific&#8221; theory, or for that matter the apology for blaming autism on the sexual frigidity of the mother.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have much to learn about the scientific method.  Bettleheim&#8217;s hypothesis has been refuted and his hypothesis wasn&#8217;t forged, like one notable &#8216;researcher&#8217; recently in the news.  So there is no need for retraction; more rigorous science replaced his, that&#8217;s how it works.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79105</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the note Sully :)</description>
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		<title>By: Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79092</link>
		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kev,

for the record, I believe the CDC just added the flu vaccine to the US pediatric schedule.  States make their own schedules, though. 

Since the flu vaccine is seasonal, I doubt states will add the vaccine to their schedules.  States tie the &quot;required&quot; vaccines to school admission.  There is no point in telling a parent, &quot;well, your child didn&#039;t get the flu vaccine at 1 year old, so your currently 7 year old child can&#039;t attend&quot;.   The flu strains in the older vaccines wouldn&#039;t likely protect against the current year&#039;s cop of flu.

This is similar to the fact that states have not adopted the rotavirus vaccine to the schedules.  By the time a child reaches school age, he/she likely has already had rotavirus.

An interesting note from the last year&#039;s H1N1 flu shots.  One location in California had long lines for the a vaccination event.  A few thousand people were vaccinated as I recall.  There were a lot of vaccines left over--the thimerosal free flu mist.  People opted for the shots with thimerosal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev,</p>
<p>for the record, I believe the <span class="caps">CDC</span> just added the flu vaccine to the US pediatric schedule.  States make their own schedules, though.</p>
<p>Since the flu vaccine is seasonal, I doubt states will add the vaccine to their schedules.  States tie the &#8220;required&#8221; vaccines to school admission.  There is no point in telling a parent, &#8220;well, your child didn&#8217;t get the flu vaccine at 1 year old, so your currently 7 year old child can&#8217;t attend&#8221;.   The flu strains in the older vaccines wouldn&#8217;t likely protect against the current year&#8217;s cop of flu.</p>
<p>This is similar to the fact that states have not adopted the rotavirus vaccine to the schedules.  By the time a child reaches school age, he/she likely has already had rotavirus.</p>
<p>An interesting note from the last year&#8217;s <span class="caps">H1N1</span> flu shots.  One location in California had long lines for the a vaccination event.  A few thousand people were vaccinated as I recall.  There were a lot of vaccines left over&#8212;the thimerosal free flu mist.  People opted for the shots with thimerosal.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-jenny-mccarthy/#comment-79091</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Paul? Maybe you&#039;d like this little tidbit from &lt;a href=&quot;http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/grabit/acip-min-feb.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CDC ACIP meeting in Feb 2002&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;During the visits, the providers were surveyed about thimerosal-containing vaccines in their inventories. Of the 447 interviews, 83.5 percent reported no thimerosal-containing vaccines in stock at any time since October 2001...&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Paul? Maybe you&#8217;d like this little tidbit from <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/grabit/acip-min-feb.pdf" rel="nofollow"><span class="caps">CDC ACIP</span> meeting in Feb 2002</a>:</p>
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<blockquote>During the visits, the providers were surveyed about thimerosal-containing vaccines in their inventories. Of the 447 interviews, 83.5 percent reported no thimerosal-containing vaccines in stock at any time since October 2001&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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