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	<title>Comments on: Barbara Loe Fisher&#8217;s lawsuit against Paul Offit dismissed</title>
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		<title>By: Anti-vaccination Stories Shift with the Tides &#171; Confutata</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/barbara-loe-fishers-lawsuit-against-paul-offit-dismissed/#comment-85387</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti-vaccination Stories Shift with the Tides &#171; Confutata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 18:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barbara Loe Fisher, who has in the past been one of the more effective anti-vax spokespeople, filed a defamation suit against Dr. Paul Offit, journalist Amy Wallace, and Wired magazine, for printing Offit’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Barbara Loe Fisher, who has in the past been one of the more effective anti-vax spokespeople, filed a defamation suit against Dr. Paul Offit, journalist Amy Wallace, and Wired magazine, for printing Offit&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/barbara-loe-fishers-lawsuit-against-paul-offit-dismissed/#comment-79367</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking back at the three 990s on that page, I see that before 2007 the president of NVIC is listed as &quot;Barbara Littles.&quot;  I am assuming that is Barbara Loe Fisher.

Reminds me of the my son&#039;s fourth grade teacher.  When I met her she had one name... then after her divorce she reverted back to her maiden name.  A couple of years later she married again and changed to his name.  During the years my kids were in that school she had three different names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking back at the three 990s on that page, I see that before 2007 the president of <span class="caps">NVIC</span> is listed as &#8220;Barbara Littles.&#8221;  I am assuming that is Barbara Loe Fisher.</p>
<p>Reminds me of the my son&#8217;s fourth grade teacher.  When I met her she had one name&#8230; then after her divorce she reverted back to her maiden name.  A couple of years later she married again and changed to his name.  During the years my kids were in that school she had three different names.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because that is name.  If you look at the 990 forms for NVIC (available here: http://www.casewatch.org/990/index.shtml ), you will see that her name changed a couple of years ago.  I assume it is because she married a Mr. Arthur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because that is name.  If you look at the 990 forms for <span class="caps">NVIC </span>(available here: <a href="http://www.casewatch.org/990/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.casewatch.org/990/index.shtml</a> ), you will see that her name changed a couple of years ago.  I assume it is because she married a Mr. Arthur.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/barbara-loe-fishers-lawsuit-against-paul-offit-dismissed/#comment-79354</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know why she filed suit as Barbara Loe Arthur rather than Barbara Loe Fisher? Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know why she filed suit as Barbara Loe Arthur rather than Barbara Loe Fisher? Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeSpeaker</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/barbara-loe-fishers-lawsuit-against-paul-offit-dismissed/#comment-79258</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeSpeaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLF: When you cannot win on the facts and science, sue, sue, sue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">BLF</span>: When you cannot win on the facts and science, sue, sue, sue.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Seidel</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/barbara-loe-fishers-lawsuit-against-paul-offit-dismissed/#comment-79234</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Seidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the real kicker comes at the end, where Judge Hilton basically says, &quot;Sure, I know you&#039;d like to find yourself another place to strut your stuff, but no way in hell is that going to happen in my courtroom.&quot;

“...[I]n the context of the Wired article, the statement “she lies” lacks the probably false content that is required to support a defamation action. Not only Plaintiff&#039;s claim of the statement&#039;s falsity invite an open-ended inquiry into Plaintiff&#039;s veracity, but it also threatens to ensnare the Court in the thorny and extremely contentious debate over the perceived risks of certain vaccines, their theoretical association with certain diseases or syndromes, and, at bottom, which side of this debate has &#039;truth” on their side. That is hardly the sort of issue that would be subject to verification based upon a “core of objective evidence.”

”The same prospect of litigation over unresolved – and perhaps unresolvable – scientific arguments was among the reasons that the accusation of lying in Faltas were deemed to be nonactionable.

”Plaintiff may wish to defend in Court the credibility of her conclusions about the danger of vaccines, the validity of the evidence she offers in support of those theories, and the policy choices that flow from those views – as well as her own credibility for advancing those positions. These, however, are academic questions that are not the sort of thing that courts or juries resolve in the context of a defamation action...”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the real kicker comes at the end, where Judge Hilton basically says, &#8220;Sure, I know you&#8217;d like to find yourself another place to strut your stuff, but no way in hell is that going to happen in my courtroom.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;...[I]n the context of the Wired article, the statement &#8220;she lies&#8221; lacks the probably false content that is required to support a defamation action. Not only Plaintiff&#8217;s claim of the statement&#8217;s falsity invite an open-ended inquiry into Plaintiff&#8217;s veracity, but it also threatens to ensnare the Court in the thorny and extremely contentious debate over the perceived risks of certain vaccines, their theoretical association with certain diseases or syndromes, and, at bottom, which side of this debate has &#8216;truth&#8221; on their side. That is hardly the sort of issue that would be subject to verification based upon a &#8220;core of objective evidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8221;The same prospect of litigation over unresolved &#8211; and perhaps unresolvable &#8211; scientific arguments was among the reasons that the accusation of lying in Faltas were deemed to be nonactionable.</p>
<p>&#8221;Plaintiff may wish to defend in Court the credibility of her conclusions about the danger of vaccines, the validity of the evidence she offers in support of those theories, and the policy choices that flow from those views &#8211; as well as her own credibility for advancing those positions. These, however, are academic questions that are not the sort of thing that courts or juries resolve in the context of a defamation action&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/barbara-loe-fishers-lawsuit-against-paul-offit-dismissed/#comment-79196</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope his &quot;History of the Anti-Vaccination Movement&quot; has the effect of burying it! Sure, AoA will complain, but it would be like the muffled screams coming from a 6 feet deep coffin. Someone yelling,&quot;My son is my science!&quot; will barely be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope his &#8220;History of the Anti-Vaccination Movement&#8221; has the effect of burying it! Sure, AoA will complain, but it would be like the muffled screams coming from a 6 feet deep coffin. Someone yelling,&#8221;My son is my science!&#8221; will barely be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: storkdok</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/barbara-loe-fishers-lawsuit-against-paul-offit-dismissed/#comment-79175</link>
		<dc:creator>storkdok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was totally a SLAPP suit.  My favorite part of the decision is the plaintiff&#039;s own words &quot;causing her to appear &#039;odious, infamous, and ridiculous.&quot;  She did that herself!

My second most favorite part in the dismissal of complaint for &quot;failure to state a claim&quot; was about &quot;the importance of &#039;evaluating complaints early in the process&#039;...as a way to deal with &#039;the recognized problems created by &#039;strike suits&#039; and the high cost of frivolous litigation.&#039;&quot;

I will have to arm wrestle isles for the first copy of Dr. Offit&#039;s next book!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was totally a <span class="caps">SLAPP</span> suit.  My favorite part of the decision is the plaintiff&#8217;s own words &#8220;causing her to appear &#8216;odious, infamous, and ridiculous.&#8221;  She did that herself!</p>
<p>My second most favorite part in the dismissal of complaint for &#8220;failure to state a claim&#8221; was about &#8220;the importance of &#8216;evaluating complaints early in the process&#8217;...as a way to deal with &#8216;the recognized problems created by &#8216;strike suits&#8217; and the high cost of frivolous litigation.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I will have to arm wrestle isles for the first copy of Dr. Offit&#8217;s next book!</p>
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		<title>By: isles</title>
		<link>http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/barbara-loe-fishers-lawsuit-against-paul-offit-dismissed/#comment-79168</link>
		<dc:creator>isles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I add my thanks, and will be first in line to buy a copy of his next book.  If Dr. Offit&#039;s &quot;history of the anti-vaccine movement&quot; is as fearless as his other books, it should make quite the kerfuffle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I add my thanks, and will be first in line to buy a copy of his next book.  If Dr. Offit&#8217;s &#8220;history of the anti-vaccine movement&#8221; is as fearless as his other books, it should make quite the kerfuffle!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the judge gives Ms. Fisher a lesson on why you are not supposed to abuse the legal system with the intent of hindering  someone&#039;s participation in a debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the judge gives Ms. Fisher a lesson on why you are not supposed to abuse the legal system with the intent of hindering  someone&#8217;s participation in a debate.</p>
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