In order to learn about science you need to have confidence in the background to it, and not just judge by the surface foam of misinformation put out by people who use the language of science but do not understand the process, for they are like people who sing in a foreign language phonetically.

1. Ethyl Mercury and Methyl Mercury are not the same. To say that they are is like saying Hydrogen Peroxide and Water are the same because they both contain Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms, You wouldn’t drink Hydrogen Peroxide, and wouldn’t bleach your hair in water.

2. Genuine mercury poisoning is a well understood phenomenon and in no way resembles autism. It is like saying that the flu and typhoid are the same because you exhibit a raised temperature in both.

3. Before there was Big Pharma, there was and still is Big Oil, yes the people who put lead in Petrol (gasolene) which is known to have an effect on the intellect of growing children. But whoa, do I see anyone suing Exxon? no because a convenient mechanism does not exist, the vaccine controversy is litigation driven, because a convenient mechanism exists to pursue compensation. This has been exploited ad nauseam to the detriment of genuine claimants.

4. Co-incidence is just that. If you walk past an orchard and an apple falls as you are walking by, can you suppose it would not have fallen where you not there to observe it?

5. Development follows a complex and chaotic trajectory, what is observed on the surface is like the breaking of a wave on the shore. It didn’t just happen because you just got your surfboard out. What is called regressive autism, is something that was set in motion long before any vaccine was delivered. You have to trust science for that, because observation is fallible, if you had have jumped up and down as you passed that orchard you might think you had caused the apple to fall, but no, it was ready to fall before that and only the apples that were going to fall ever did, the rest you forget are still up in the trees.

Anyway DNA is complex stuff if anyone is interested they may note this fascinating article. http://www.nature.com/embor/jo.....or719.html

And before I collapse my own wave funtion and bid you all adieu, to reemerge in the non cyber world.

Thinking outside the box, that is what scientific method is about, the box is the blinkers you wear when you trust to single observations, co-incidence and then try to generalise from it without either data, methodology, or testable hypothesis.

That is, except for the bit about gelatin. That’s not a description of hazards, that’s about how it makes vaccines incompatible with the personal spiritual choice of veganism (google “search for micrograms”).

In case you couldn’t tell, when you use 3,4,5,6, or 7 exclamation marks in a row, the comment system chokes. Please stop.

I’m also in agreement with Dawn – Please consider knocking off the Gish Gallops.

“Mr. Diaz, how about you checking out a basic biology book and read about how DNA works.”

Might be a good idea.

Richard Diaz:

“Why not prove me wrong with a cheap and effective test.”

Might be a good idea to get a book on scientific methodology and philosophy and find out on whom the burden of proof rests!

“Triton X-100 – Harmful if swallowed. Causes severe eye irritation. May be harmful if inhaled or in contact with skin. Toxicology not fully investigated.”

I just about sprayed my computer monitor with coffee. Triton X-100, scary name notwithstanding, is a detergent. It is used in extremely small amounts in vaccines.

Go to your laundry room and take down the detergent – it probably has the same warnings (e.g. “harmful if swallowed”, “causes severe eye irritation”, etc.)

I’m not too impressed with Mary’s “research”.

Prometheus

Logic needs no emphasis, it is what it is and truth needs no hype it is what it is.

I was born one morning when the sun didn’t shine, I ….

Well whether the sun shone or not when I was born, it’s irrelevant.

That Autism appeared to appear (and I doubt it ever did) after a vaccine shot is irrelevant, I am willing to bet it happened on a Wednesday as well, come on own up, how many had there shots on a Wednesday?

respect the gut ecology. Dr mcbride “GAPS diet” Stay away from pediatricians the wellness visit is an oxymoron. Teach doctors about how the human body actually works, importance of nutrition and a little bit of humility and respect for mother nature.

Especially when the extra six had MERCURY!
Oh sullivan and brian you forgot the formaldehyde and thimerasol. Like I said its not just one antigen and not one adjunct its the whole stinking thing.

Oh my, these posts are a white-hot mess and I don’t even know where to begin. But these quotes are so full of win, I want them to stand on their own. I think there are some things better left unsaid and let that stand on its own merits.

but sullivan you do agree that they INJECTED 187.5 into MY baby!

You think it would’ve made a difference if it was only 3 mcg or none? Any basis for that belief, or just a hunch?

1) Do not know when the child was born?

2) And in which country?

Your body’s cells make formaldehyde. You are scaremongering on something that is created as part of your own metabolism, and in greater quantities than is in the vaccine.

It has about the same logic of screaming about squalene, which is created in your liver and you would not be very healthy if it did not.

As noted before many many times, the levels of mercury was for methylmercury, not ethylmercury. There is no evidence that the levels of thimerosal in vaccines was ever a health issue. Especially in light that just a few years before mercury was used in Merthiolate and Mercurochrome, which was that red stuff our mothers used to paint us with when ever we had a scrape or cut!

Do, please, try to read the summary of the court findings above, and stop cutting and pasting scare bits from websites without reading them first. This way you would avoid trying to scare us with table salt and gelatine.

Also, read the article posted today about the Reader’s Digest article. In it there is discussion of making vaccines without eggs. This is great news. But will you find it on any of the websites you cut and paste your scare ingredients from?

Go to a farm, grow all your own food, drill a well for your water, make sure your septic tank doesn’t infect your well (and hope your pure water doesn’t have high levels of lead, mercury, bacteria…). My parents have a well. It is tested regularly for heavy metals, bacteria, etc…actually, this is their 3rd well. Their first well was so high in heavy metals that it was recommended that we only use it for washing and not for drinking (yes, in Michigan there are such things as heavy metals in the ground…gee, wonder where you get iron ore from?).

You are comparing micrograms of mercury in the flu shot to MILLIGRAMS that lead to toxicity? Do you even understand the phrase “the dose makes the poison”? If you don’t, go drink 5 liters of water in a few minutes then come back and tell us how you feel. Or weren’t you ever taught in nursing school about not given fluids too quickly because it can lead to hyponatremia and death?

Please, Mary. I hope you are NOT a practicing nurse. You make me ashamed of the RN after my name.