Since bleach wasn’t enough, let’s start adding hydrochloric acid to MMS?

27 Aug

MMS. Miracle Mineral Solution is dangerous bunk. They’ve taken such a hit with people exposing it as bunk that they’ve started rebranding themselves as “CD” of “Chlorine Dioxide”.

The basic idea is that there are bad things inside you that make you sick. And by sick, they include autistic. If you ingest something that kills the bad things, or take enemas that kill the bad things, you will no longer be sick. There’s a lot of handwaving about how this only works on the bad things and not the good things like, say, the tissues in your body.

It’s nonsense. Dangerous nonsense.

MMS stands for Miracle Mineral Solution. It’s not a miracle. It’s not a mineral. It is a solution made by combining two other solutions to get chlorine dioxide in solution. The two starter solutions are sodium chlorite (a powerful bleach) and citric acid.

Well if citric acid is “good”, how can we make it “better” some have asked?

A New Simpler MMS: CDH – Chlorine Dioxide Holding (01-04-2014)

Here’s what they say:

While CDS has no raw materials left in the final product, CDH does, making it similar to classic MMS. The main difference between classic MMS and CDH, however, is that the sodium chlorite is allowed to react with the acid for a much longer period of time which reduces the amount of unactivated sodium chlorite and activator left in the final CDH solution. Then, since CDH is more fully activated outside of the body, it causes little or no stomach upset in most people. Also, CDH made with 4% HCl tastes much better. (Note: For those who still have a problem with the taste, “Sweetleaf” brand liquid stevia has been tested and is compatible with MMS, thus can be used to make it taste even better.)

If you took high school or college chemistry you probably remember the very sharp aroma of HCl. You may remember how it can burn skin and the lining of your nose. It’s nasty stuff. Sure, they’ve got relatively dilute HCl (4%), but, still, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? (and after that–people are looking at 10% HCl! There is something seriously wrong here)

MMS/CD/CDH, whatever you want to call this, it’s a scam. People post to Facebook pictures of the intestinal linings of their disabled kids, passed with the help of MMS enemas. They caption these pictures with statements about how MMS killed “worms”. Rather than go to a doctor and see if there are real parasites, they are self-diagnosing and self-treating and causing harm.

One of the main avenues for promoting this to the autism community is the AutismOne parent convention, where MMS pracitioner Terri Riviera sells her services under the guise of “scientific” presentations.

And all the people presenting at AutismOne stand by and don’t say a word. The supposed leaders in that community don’t seem to have the ability to spot scam artists (which is pretty obvious given the years they have spent promoting Andrew Wakefield, to give just one example). They also lack courage. They rarely if ever stand up to anyone who is promoting obvious and dangerous nonsense.

The all show up, promote themselves, their goods and services, and go home. It’s time for them to show some courage. They can put a stop to this. Instead they lend their names and credibility to this obvious scam.

By Matt Carey

By Matt Carey

28 Responses to “Since bleach wasn’t enough, let’s start adding hydrochloric acid to MMS?”

  1. Miss Irritated August 27, 2014 at 12:26 #

    Sounds like these nuts out here running a pyramid scheme to get me to buy in and put my son on something called Protandin. LIFE VANTAGE is there corporate name and it’s dangerous also!

  2. Lec August 27, 2014 at 12:53 #

    It scares me how much leaders don’t do to prevent things like this. I always wonder how much is known by the person that is lending their credibility to things like this, but I honestly don’t know what would be worse – not looking into something that you are in essence recommending or knowing and still doing it anyway.

  3. chavisory August 27, 2014 at 13:51 #

    I’m a little at a loss as to how this isn’t criminal?

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) August 27, 2014 at 17:56 #

      I don’t know. We have a lot of protections in the U.S. for alternative medicine and people who can get under that umbrella can get away with a lot. Consider Boyd Haley and his OSR#1. What happened? They pulled it from the shelves. He markets an untested drug as a “supplement” and gets a slap on the wrist.

      The MMS charlatans have found a way to stay under the regulatory radar.

  4. Heather August 27, 2014 at 15:34 # this is child abuse, we are trying to stop it, please join us

    • rixtertrader February 11, 2015 at 02:37 #

      Nearly 200 Autistic children cured and you want to stop it? I don’t understand the logic.

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) February 11, 2015 at 03:46 #

        “Nearly 200 Autistic children cured and you want to stop it? I don’t understand the logic.”

        So, someone selling bleach, books on bleach and her services as a consultant in your experiments with bleach says she’s cured kids and you just believe it?

        You have a low standard for evidence. No wonder you believe in MMS.

        163 Children Healed From Autism? Nope.

      • rix February 11, 2015 at 04:32 #

        I’m sorry, but your insisting that it is bleach is what gives you away as not having all the facts.

        You think just because it smells like bleach that it is bleach? Seriously? I would say that if you are really interested in ‘evidence’ that you would spend a bit more time investigating what ‘bleach’ really is.

        It is a FACT that Sodium Chlorite and its product Chlorine Dioxide is being used successfully for the purpose of healing serious illnesses. Someone has actually patented and gained approval for human use with a product that relies on these chemical compounds (see “WF 10”, “WF10 Granted Full Approval By Thailand Government”).

        One patent is here in the US, but the FDA won’t have none of it (what a surprise!).

        Do I require a low standard of evidence? No. But I don’t have my head in the sand either, thinking the FDA is looking out for my well-being while getting big bucks from the Big Pharma guys to shove useless poison down my throat.

        It doesn’t take a genius to separate those who are honestly reporting on their own experiences and those who seem to have an agenda. I just happen to be someone who has ‘personal experience’ in spending thousands being treated with pharmaceuticals prescribed by dozens of doctors and only getting worse over time.

        What has cured me of 4 decades of illnesses, giving me the power to be healthy (now entering year 10 of health) is when I decided to go it on my own. Scary, yes. But what was my alternative? Same same for another 4 decades? No way! I’d be dead long before then or just not having a very good time living.

        I learned by simply hearing what others claimed, and weighing it all as either probable or pure baloney. There are a lot of sincere people out there trying to tell their story and then there are people like you that shoo-shoo what they have to say as if they are all just out to get you. Think man! When I watch people like Andreas Kalcker talking about MMS, I think to myself (what is his motive?) The man shares his knowledge on many things, MMS is only one of them. He’s never gotten a dime from me.

        It just seems like some people are too smart for their own good and think the worse of others. That’s a shame. Have a tried MMS? Yes, I have. But I’m already healthy last 9-10 years and so don’t see the point in daily use. But I continue to investigate claims, comments, testimonials, consider motives, etc.

        Did you know that Chlorine is one of the 90 basic building blocks of matter? It is combined with other elements to disinfect our water, and used in knee and hip joint replacement products.

        Over 2000 naturally occurring chlorine-containing compounds have been identified in living organisms.

        Human beings CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT CHLORINE! That’s a fact. Chloride plays an essential role in our body.

        “Chloride ions are building blocks of hydrochloric acid, which is essential to our digestive system. Hydrochloric acid, made in the stomach, has two main purposes: to help destroy germs that arrive with food; and to help break down foods, ensuring that essential nutrients are made available to the body.”

        “Chlorine is also essential to the immune system, which is charged with fighting off the daily invasion of germs. When infections take place, hypochlorite—a chlorine-containing compound which is a well-known disinfectant—forms in white blood cells. Hypochlorite either attacks germs or helps to activate other disinfecting agents.”

        To simply call it “bleach” is foolish and purely ignorant, or downright misleading.

      • Lawrence February 11, 2015 at 10:17 #

        If I can make up a sample of this stuff – put it on clothes & have it have the same effect as if I sprayed bleach directly from the cleaning bottle, it means it’s “bleach.”

      • rix February 11, 2015 at 19:23 #

        No. It means it has the ‘ability’ to bleach.

        For example, vinegar, lemons, even sunlight can bleach, yet we don’t refer to them as bleach.

        When you assign the word “bleach” as part of your argument, you are misleading people to think it is the same as laundry bleach (ie. Chlorox). It simply is not.

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) February 11, 2015 at 19:36 #

        It is amazing how hard you guys work to avoid the fact that this is a bleach. It is used as a bleach in industry. It has a bleaching action. It is a bleach. Your denial does you no service.

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) February 11, 2015 at 19:37 #

        No one is saying it is laundry bleach.

        You are asserting that laundry bleach is the only solution we can call a bleach. It is a false assertion.

      • brian February 11, 2015 at 15:30 #

        “I’m sorry, but your insisting that it is bleach is what gives you away as not having all the facts.”

        The main application of sodium chlorite is the generation of chlorine dioxide for bleaching and stripping of textiles, pulp, and paper.

        According to wikipedia:


        Chlorine dioxide is sometimes used for bleaching of wood pulp in combination with chlorine, but it is used alone in ECF (elemental chlorine-free) bleaching sequences. It is used at moderately acidic pH (3.5 to 6). The use of chlorine dioxide minimizes the amount of organochlorine compounds produced. Chlorine dioxide (ECF technology) currently is the most important bleaching method world wide. About 95% of all bleached Kraft pulp is made using chlorine dioxide in ECF bleaching sequences.

      • rix February 11, 2015 at 19:19 #

        Yes Brian, it can be used for bleaching purposes, and it is. But it is not the same as what many are being led to believe, that of “chlorine bleach”, like Chlorox for example, to whiten your clothes.

        You don’t want to ingest “chlorine bleach”. Chlorine Dioxide, however, is not the same.

        In fact, in many commercial applications such as water purification, Chlorine Dioxide is being touted as the better “alternative” to standard chlorine water treatment, which is considered cancer causing. The choice to go to CL02 is because it does not have detrimental effects on health when used in the correct dilution ratios.

        Last night I did additional searches on the application of Chlorine Dioxide, watch a ton of “commercial” science videos and read a bunch of their press releases, etc., noting a common thread on how it is used to benefit the environment, rid of toxins, bacteria, etc. and left harmless to man.

        You can also bleach things with vinegar, lemons, baking soda, for example. Just because something has the ability to bleach does not make it bad for people.

  5. Clay February 11, 2015 at 06:11 #

    “Human beings CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT CHLORINE! That’s a fact. Chloride plays an essential role in our body.”

    What a hilariously misleading argument. While it’s true, CHLORIDE plays an essential role in the body, you’re trying to make the leap here that because the body needs chloride, then chlorine must be safe.

    Your body gets all the chloride ions it needs from breaking down salt that you eat/drink.

    If you were to try to use chlorine as a supply of chloride for your body, you would die. It was used as a chemical weapon in WWI, for crying out loud.

    • rix February 11, 2015 at 18:37 #

      What is misleading is calling chlorine dioxide “chlorine”. They are NOT the same.

      A simple search on chlorine dioxide will turn up many science based commercials for companies using CL02 and they make it pretty clear they are not the same and that CL02 is beneficial for human contact use.

  6. Narad February 11, 2015 at 15:34 #

    To simply call it “bleach” is foolish and purely ignorant, or downright misleading.

    Like suggesting that MMS contains a “mineral”?

    • rix February 11, 2015 at 18:38 #

      You’ll get no argument from me on calling it “mineral” or “miracle” for that matter. It’s not an appropriate name.

      But bad naming (and it is really bad) does not invalidate the facts about what it really is and what it really does.

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) February 11, 2015 at 19:24 #

        It doesn’t cure autism. What it does is dislodge intestinal linings which are mislabeled “parasites”.

        It is an abusive faux therapy inflicted upon disabled children. Your defense of it does not help you.

  7. private May 22, 2015 at 01:06 #

    if it’s a scam, why are PhDs recommending it? why is the red Cross curing malaria with it? why does the fda approve it’s use in food production? why is it approved for use in swimming pools? why does the body naturally produce these substances?

    • novalox May 22, 2015 at 13:01 #


      Were is your evidence for your assertions, because there is nothing that I can find that would rationally support your ridiculous comments.

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) May 24, 2015 at 20:09 #

      I am a Ph.D.. Am I always right?

      The Red Cross malaria notion is fake. You can read about it above.

      The FDA allows for the use of Chlorine Dioxide in food production because the ClO2 decomposes by the time the food is ingested.

      The body naturally produces Chlorine Dioxide? In what process and in what amounts (how about no process and in no amount)

  8. Al September 4, 2015 at 06:51 #

    How bad can human being be about facts and why? MMS cure so many diseases that I really wonder why doctors fight it instead of studying it. Knowing MMS and reading so many stupid assertions about it make me think the animals are far more rationals. What matters if one component of MMS is used as bleach or not? Coca-Cola is really good to unclog private bathroom! Put a chicken bone on a Coca-Cola bottle and look at it another day. The effect of one product on one thing need not to be the same on another.
    Ok. I take MMS along with a little bit of bleach. So, if you prefer, just think your stomach – or body – will be whiter tomorrow. Feel better? Go on.

    Do you know Warfarin or Coumadin? It is saving lives as anticoagulant in prevention of thrombosis and the like.
    But wait! Isn’t it a pesticide, a poison for rats and mice? For sure!

    “All things are poison and nothing is without poison; only the dose makes a thing not a poison.” “The dose makes the poison” – PARACELSUS

    If somebody with lazy brain want to know about why MMS is so “miraculous” about so many disease’s cure, I just put this statement:
    – If an hospital room is infected with bacteria, what they use?
    – Disinfectant!
    – And if it is infected by fungus, what they use?
    – Disinfectant!
    – And if infection is by virus, what they use?
    – Disinfectant!

    Well, simply thinking, MMS is a kind of disinfectant (and smells like one) AND SOMEBODY FOUND A SAFE WAY FOR US TO INGEST A DISINFECTANT and kill some bacteria, fungus and virus with are the biggest cause of diseases!

    Simple, no?

    If you want to contribute to mankind, go deep in knowing and studying the facts. To argue with things like “it is a bleach” is so infant and adds ZERO to whatever should be useful.

    Want to know a simple MMS power example? When feeling you will fall on bed for at least two days in a bad flu, just take (the correct way) 3 to 5 drops of activated MMS before sleep. You will wake up in a wonderful morning asking yourself where is the flu.

    Maybe the flu became just a bad word written in white on a white sheet. The “bleaching” effect.

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) September 4, 2015 at 17:21 #

      – If an hospital room is infected with bacteria, what they use?
      – Disinfectant!
      – And if it is infected by fungus, what they use?
      – Disinfectant!
      – And if infection is by virus, what they use?
      – Disinfectant!

      Really? So, should we be forcing disabled children to drink lysol now? It’s a disinfectant.

      Do hospitals wipe down the floors with antiviral meds? No.

      Which is to say, your logic is so flawed I’d be embarrassed to read it from an 8th grader.

      • Al September 5, 2015 at 01:42 #

        With so many points to discuss and you choosed just the one I pointed to “somebody with lazy brain”!
        That is just an analogy.
        8th grader is supposed a good audience for that statement. How old are you?

        Sullivan, do you know MMS?
        Did you ever used it?
        Did you talked to someone that used it?
        Are you FDA’s agent?

        Man, what have you against something that cures people without promoting disease in their pockets?

        Hope you and your family never need MMS. But, just in case, know that so many people around the world will be glad to help you and give you as much MMS as you need.

        Big Pharma wants your money. MMS people want you health.

        Just not to let you without an answer, please DO NOT GIVE LYSOL FOR CHILDREN!
        At least until somebody finds a safe way to do that!

        Many years ago, my father in law cured a duodenal ulcer with a kind of disinfectant (cresol). Would you like to know the procedure?

        No, no, you won’t belive that!

        Sullivan, do not fight against good people. Join them!

        A good start point should be reading Jum Humble’s book. If you want, I pay a PDF version for you.


        Think forward!

        Help people make a better world!

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) September 5, 2015 at 02:19 #


        grow up yourself.

        Here’s the thing–I am fighting against fools like you who seem to think that abusing disabled children with bleach enemas and bleach drinks is a good idea.

        Throw all your anecdotes–real, imagined, lies–that you want. (1) there’s no real evidence that MMS does anything beneficial and (2) there’s no good reasoning to believe it either.

        Sorry you were fooled. But fooled you are

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) September 5, 2015 at 02:42 #

        Anyone notice where Al discusses autism at all?

        Nope. Just another believer in the church of whatever it is that spreads this nonsense.

  9. Al September 5, 2015 at 04:30 #

    What is you goal?

    I know few about autism, and your article goes beyond that.
    But about MMS… for years I have used just MMS for me and my kids. No drugs at all. Only health!
    So I’m not speculating. I know what I’m talking about.
    And see incurable people coming back to life is indescribable. Thanks to MMS.

    The word “nonsense” hurt my ears when referring to MMS.

    What is an evidence for you?
    FDA and Big Pharma words?
    So blind…

    You are so narrow-minded and should consider search for another job.

    Don’t talk like a sapient about things you are ignorant about.
    Read before make any statement. I’m not talking about autism (this MMS article was the first one I read from you).

    The worst blind is the one who doesn’t want to see.

    You are not guilt about being ignorant about MMS. But is guilt about calling nonsense what you left brain can’t catch. You are offending decent people that think forward about common good.


    Watch the movie “The Constant Gardener”. Will put light in your way.

    Left brain and right brain.

    Good name.

    Use both!

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