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		<title>The Omnibus Autism Proceeding: effectively over</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Omnibus Autism Proceeding (OAP) was held in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims to group the large number of claims filed involving autism and vaccines. The Docket was opened on July 3, 2002, nearly 10 years ago. The last entry was placed 1 year ago. Since then many cases have been dismissed. About half [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>The <a href="http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/omnibus-autism-proceeding">Omnibus Autism Proceeding</a> (OAP) was held in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims to group the large number of claims filed involving autism and vaccines.  The <a href="http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/node/2718">Docket</a> was opened  on July 3, 2002, nearly 10 years ago.  The last entry was placed 1 year ago.  Since then many cases have been dismissed.  About half the cases are left to hear, but the fact that the two causation theories presented (that the <span class="caps">MMR</span> vaccine causes autism and that Thimerosal causes autism) were both found to have no merit (&#8220;not even close&#8221; one special master put it) and no new theory is proposed by the Petitioners&#8217; Steering Committee (the attorneys who presented the case for the petitioners) makes it clear that the group claim, the omnibus, is effectively over.</p>

	<p>That is not to say that other claims are not proceeding through the court, or that new cases will not be presented.  There is at least one case pursuing the idea of mitochondrial dysfunction and autism, as with the Hannah Poling case. ([edit to add&#8212;the case ongoing, which was briefly closed, is not the Hannah Poling case.  See the comments below). The case was actually dismissed for lack of action by the petitioners but the special master allowed it to continue again).</p>

	<p>Looking back, the <a href="http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statisticsreports.html#Stats">Omnibus peaked in 2003 </a> when 2,437cases were filed (close to 1/2 of the total that would eventually be filed).</p>

 
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							"The trial was a pig circus they never had a chance."
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						  <li><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0a9ae7b938ccff781b4a40a15598319d?s=32&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&amp;r=R' class='avatar avatar-32 photo' height='32' width='32' /><i>Chris:</i>
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							What are you trying to say with that silly comment?  You made that quote on this blog once before and it made no sense then either.
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						  <li><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0281adf2ef5dc7a3556ccd2e494ebdb7?s=32&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&amp;r=R' class='avatar avatar-32 photo' height='32' width='32' /><i>Sullivan:</i>
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							The petitioners never had a good theory of causation, quality evidence nor experts who were actually experts. 

Remember the expert who claimed she worked at UCSF when she actually only used their library and went to their parties?  Remember when she claimed one of the attorneys was making faces at her?  Remember the guy who claimed he got the "rock" award and it turned out he had made it up?

Remember the weak evidence?

They didn't have much of a chance. Arguing a false claim will do that. 
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							You are right Sully! There is absolutley no evidence that injecting newborns and infants 11 times with bolus doses of a short chain-alkyl mercury compound is dangerous. There is no evidence that short-chain alkyl mercury compounds are neurotoxic.
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						  <li><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8d72121b5d3f2c0bd0b8fae13e475e60?s=32&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&amp;r=R' class='avatar avatar-32 photo' height='32' width='32' /><i>Science Mom:</i>
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							@ Bob, the OAP petitioners had plenty of time, resources and a pool of over 5,000 children to pick their best cases from; they failed to present even a modicum of evidence that the vaccines "more likely than not" caused autism.  Every time the anti-vaxxers fail in a court it's a fix.  Well suck it up buttercup because now your fearless leaders are claiming that the U.S. is the only court that will be fair with regards to Wakefield.  Just because it doesn't go "your" way, doesn't mean it wasn't fair; it just means that you are barking up the wrong tree.
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		<title>Is Mark Geier finished as an expert witness in the vaccine court?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Mark Geier is a name which has come up frequently in the autism/vaccine discussion, and in alternative medical therapies (such as Lupron) of autism. Dr. Geier has been an expert witness for petitioners in the vaccine court for about two decades. He has been criticized by the court for almost as long. Dr. Geier [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>Dr. Mark Geier is a name which has come up frequently in the autism/vaccine discussion, and in alternative medical therapies (such as Lupron) of autism. Dr. Geier has been an expert witness for petitioners in the vaccine court for about two decades.  He has been <a href="http://www.neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/210">criticized by the court for almost as long</a>.  Dr. Geier has recently had <a href="http://www.neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/217">his medical license suspended</a>.</p>

	<p>Mark Geier and his son David have worked for the Petitioners Steering Committee (the lawyers handling the plaintiffs&#8217; cases in the Autism Omnibus). But their relationship seems a bit strained.   <a href="http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/218/">They filed suit asking for $600,000 in payment</a>.  The Geiers have had previous requests for fees drastically reduced or denied, including one where they expected the Court to cover $20,000 as <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/08/another-example-of-the-workings-of-the-vaccine-court/">their costs (and hourly rate, including while sitting on planes) to attend conferences in Italy and France</a>.  The court called this &#8220;a complete abdication of billing judgment.&#8221;</p>

	<p>In a recent <a href="http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/HASTINGS.KING092211.pdf">court decision</a>, Dr. Geier has been criticized again.  Thoroughly.  But this very strong statement from the special master makes it clear that Dr. Geier&#8217;s future as an expert witness or consultant will be very restricted:</p>

	<p><blockquote>I will not likely be inclined to compensate attorneys in any future opinions for consultant work performed by Mark Geier after the publication date of this opinion.</blockquote></p>

	<p>The decision focused on expenses the Petitioner&#8217;s Steering Committee (PSC) charged in the <a href="http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/node/2718">Omnibus Autism Proceeding</a> for Mark Geier, his son David Geier and their colleagues.  Much of these charges resulted from a study they published, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18482737">Thimerosal exposure in infants and neurodevelopmental disorders: An assessment of computerized medical records in the Vaccine Safety Datalink</a>.  Epiwonk (a former professional epidemiologist for the <span class="caps">CDC</span>) discussed the paper in <a href="http://epiwonk.com/?p=55">New Study on Thimerosal and Neurodevelopmental Disorders: I. Scientific Fraud or Just Playing with Data?</a></p>

	<p>The study noted in the acknowledgements that the study was funded by the <span class="caps">PSC</span>:</p>

	<p><blockquote>This study received funding from the Autism Petitioners&#8217; Steering Committee of the no-fault National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP).</blockquote></p>

	<p>The Geier/Young team billed the <span class="caps">PSC</span>, and the <span class="caps">PSC</span> billed the <del datetime="2011-12-10T17:12:16+00:00">vaccine injury trust fund</del> vaccine court.  As you can read, they just weren&#8217;t successful.</p>

	<p>The Geiers tried some fancy footwork to get the Young-Geier study paid  for by our tax dollars.&#160; Including an apparent attempt to get the non-doctor David Geier compensated by charging work at their company, &#8220;medcon&#8221;, rather than naming David Geier as the recipient.</p>

	<p>Bottom  line&#8212;the <span class="caps">PSC</span> asked for $440k to compensate the people who worked on the Young-Geier  study.&#160; They got $33k, and a strong statement that Geier will be unlikely to  be compensated by the program in the future.</p>

	<p>If you are curious about the value of the study itself, there is a whole  section of the decision titled &#8220;The Young-Geier article itself did not add any value to the petitioners&#8217; causation case.&#8221;</p>

	<p>In their application, the <span class="caps">PSC</span> sought a total of $7,202,653 for interim fees and costs. with $1.35M for costs, primarily expert witness costs (note that the Geiers did not actually serve as witnesses, so they are part of the &#8220;costs&#8221;)</p>

	<p>Out of $1,350,000 in costs one might ask how much of this was for the Young-Geier study?</p>

	<p><blockquote>As  noted above, this Decision on Remand concerns the <span class="caps">PSC</span>&#8217;s claim for  compensation for amounts paid, or to be paid, to four  experts/consultants: Dr. Mark Geier, David Geier, Dr. Heather Young and  Dr. Robert Hirsch. Conceptually, this claim can be broken into two  parts. First, petitioners seek $447,004.02 to compensate all four of  those individuals for work on an original medical article that was  published in 2008. Second, petitioners seek $197,823.94 more for  miscellaneous additional services provided by Mark Geier and David Geier  between 2003 and 2008.</blockquote></p>

	<p>$447K.  One third of the total.  A large number of expert witnesses actually produced reports and testified, but the Geier team was to receive 1/3 of the total.   If you take a high rate of $500/hour, this works out to 22 full time man weeks.  For a study where they didn&#8217;t have to collect data, just analyze it.  I find it difficult to believe this study took 22 weeks (or more, as the $500/hour is a very high estimate).</p>

	<p>The Geiers were not slated to get the majority of the money.  <a href="http://www.gwumc.edu/sphhs/faculty/index.cfm?employeeID=631">Heather Young</a>, an associate professor at George Washington University, was to get the lion&#8217;s share.  About a quarter of a million dollars:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Petitioners would receive $248,636.91 to compensate Dr. Young, $157,407.11 for the two Geiers, and $41,000 for Dr. Hirsch</blockquote></p>

	<p>Unless <span class="caps">GWU</span> pays their associate professors much more than is common, this represents well over one year&#8217;s pay for Prof. Young.</p>

	<p>Thankfully <span class="caps">HHS </span>(respondent) argued against this request:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Respondent  argues strenuously, in response, that it would be wholly unreasonable  for the Program to provide compensation to these individuals for their  efforts concerning the article.</blockquote></p>

	<p>Is it reasonable to charge for studies created for litigation? Are they of high value to the case?</p>

	<p><blockquote>I note that  the Supreme Court has expressed the view that medical studies produced  expressly for litigation purposes should be viewed with skepticism.</blockquote></p>

	<p>and</p>

	<p><blockquote>The  views of these courts, then, reinforce the concern that if a lawyer  involved in a Vaccine Act case chooses specific experts and pays them to  carry out a study, the potential is great for bias in the study, toward  the outcome that would assist the clients of the lawyer paying for the  study. Thus, it is arguable that, as the respondent contends, it would  be poor public policy, in general, for special masters to award public  funds for such original studies.</blockquote></p>

	<p>and</p>

	<p><blockquote>Rather,  I conclude that under all the specific circumstances of this case, it  would not be reasonable for me to compensate the named individuals for  the production of this particular article.</blockquote></p>

	<p>The <span class="caps">PSC</span> argued that the paper was not &#8220;litigation driven&#8221;.&#160; The SM didn&#8217;t accept the argument:</p>

	<p><blockquote>As  to the former point, I am simply not persuaded by the suggestion that  the article was not litigation-driven&#8230;.The mere fact that the <span class="caps">PSC </span> lawyers contributed or promised monetary support for another article  co-authored by the Geiers, concerning the topic of whether  thimerosal-containing vaccines can cause autism, is itself strong  evidence that the article was litigation-driven.</blockquote></p>

	<p><blockquote>Further,  the very fact that the petitioners are now seeking Vaccine Act funds  for the cost of producing the article is a very strong indication that  the article was litigation-driven.</blockquote></p>

	<p>If that wasn&#8217;t enough, the <span class="caps">PSC</span> argument backfired in another way:</p>

	<p><blockquote>If  the article was produced &#8220;completely apart from [Dr. Geier&#8217;s]  involvement in this [Vaccine Act] litigation,&#8221; and would have been  produced even absent that litigation, that would seem to contradict the  petitioners&#8217; claim that paying the cost of producing the article was a  necessary and reasonable cost of the Vaccine Act litigation.</blockquote></p>

	<p>How was the Young-Geier study used in the Omnibus?  Was it persuasive?  Answer: it wasn&#8217;t really used and it wasn&#8217;t persuasive.</p>

	<p>The <span class="caps">HHS</span>/DOJ&#8217;s experts were critical of the Young-Geier study:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Perhaps  the strongest factor leading to my result here is my conclusion that  the Young-Geier article itself did not add any value to the petitioners&#8217;  causation presentation in this case. Two epidemiologic experts, both of  them testifying for respondent, testified at the trial in this case  concerning the merits of the Young-Geier article, and both testified  that the article was deeply flawed.</blockquote></p>

	<p>Even the <span class="caps">PSC</span>&#8217;s own experts were not impressed by the Geiers in general:</p>

	<p><blockquote>And,  very significantly, none of the petitioners&#8217; five medical experts who  testified at the trial offered any testimony in support of the validity  of the Young-Geier article. It is especially striking that among  petitioners&#8217; experts was an expert who has excellent credentials in  epidemiology, Dr. Sander Greenland. Dr. Greenland in fact testified  negatively about the Geiers&#8217; prior epidemiologic articles concerning the  vaccine-autism controversy, describing those studies as&#8220;deficient in methodology.&#8221;</blockquote></p>

	<p>Prof. Greenland  didn&#8217;t speak to the Young-Geier article directly, just their methods in other studies.&#160; But the special master  points out that this appears to be a trick on the part of the <span class="caps">PSC</span> to avoid having to defend the Young-Geier study on cross examination:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Yet  they [the <span class="caps">PSC</span>] put Dr. Greenland on the witness stand in this King case  on May 12, 2008 (Tr. 69-135), did not ask him about the article, and  did not reveal the existence of the article to the special masters and  respondent until May 16 (see fn. 6 above), thus ensuring that no one  could ask Dr. Greenland about the Young-Geier article. From these  circumstances, the most reasonable inference is that petitioners&#8217;  counsel deliberately intended to avoid any questioning of Dr. Greenland,  their epidemiologic expert, about the Young-Geier article.</blockquote></p>

	<p>The special master concludes that the study did not add any value to the <span class="caps">PSC</span>&#8217;s case and &#8220;no rational hypothetical paying client&#8221; would have agreed to pay for the production of such a &#8220;flawed study&#8221;:</p>

	<p><blockquote>In  short, the Young-Geier study itself was severely criticized by  respondent&#8217;s experts, who articulated persuasive reasons for that  criticism. In my own analysis, the Young-Geier study also appears  flawed. And the other special masters who reviewed that article reached  the same conclusion. Clearly, no rational &#8220;hypothetical paying client&#8221;  of the <span class="caps">PSC</span> would have agreed to pay for the production of such a flawed  study. Thus, the fact that the Young-Geier article did not add any value  to the petitioners&#8217; causation presentation in this case is a very  strong reason why I should decline to compensate the <span class="caps">PSC</span> for the cost of  producing the article.</blockquote></p>

	<p>The Special Master notes that given the long history of the Geiers in the vaccine program, it would be unreasonable to expect the program to pay for the cost of the study:</p>

	<p><blockquote>A  review of prior legal opinions discussing the Geiers casts strong doubt  on the reasonableness of compensating the cost of an article  co-authored by them.</blockquote></p>

	<p>The Special Master then goes into detail of those decisions , with an  entire section&#160; of the decision dedicated to &#8220;Vaccine Act opinions  concerning the general credibility of Dr. Geier as an expert witness&#8221;  including subsections &#8220;Criticisms of Dr. Geier for offering testimony  outside his area of medical specialty&#8221; and &#8220;Opinions questioning Dr.  Geier&#8217;s honesty, candor, or veracity&#8221; and &#8220;Opinions declining  compensation or substantially reducing compensation for Dr. Geier&#8217;s  services&#8221;</p>

	<p>If you get the time, read through those.  They are highly critical.  A condensed version of 20 years of highly critical comments about the actions of the Geiers in the vaccine program (mostly Mark Geier):</p>

	<p>Criticism of the Geiers is not limited to their activities in the Vaccine  Court. In &#8220;Judicial opinions outside of the Vaccine Act&#8221; they quote  decisions stating &#8220;federal appellate court concluded that Dr. Geier gave  erroneous testimony&#8221; and &#8220;state court found Dr. Geier&#8217;s testimony to be  &#8220;unsubstantiated&#8221; and unpersuasive&#8221; and &#8220;federal court was &#8220;unimpressed  with the qualifications, veracity, and bonafides&#8221; and, lastly, &#8220;federal  judge stated that he was &#8220;unconvinced&#8221; that Dr. Geier was qualified to  offer testimony concerning certain vaccine safety issues.&#8221;</p>

	<p>The Special Master  went into detail about previous flawed studies by the Geiers on  vaccines and autism.&#160; He also notes that the assertion that Dr. Geier is  qualified as an epidemiologist is not supported:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Thus,  Dr. Geier does not appear to have had any formal academic training or  degrees or medical faculty experience in epidemiology, and his medical  experience has been chiefly in genetics rather than epidemiology. Thus,  it is unclear why he was named a &#8220;Fellow&#8221; of the American College of  Epidemiology, and it is doubtful whether he should be considered an  expert in epidemiology. I conclude that the petitioners have failed to  shoulder their burden of demonstrating that Dr. Geier should be  considered an expert in epidemiology.</blockquote></p>

	<p>and</p>

	<p><blockquote>Further,  a number of judges and special masters have also examined Dr. Geier&#8217;s  credentials, and have specifically concluded that Dr. Geier should not  be considered an expert in epidemiology.</blockquote></p>

	<p>He awards fees, as a consultant not expert, for Mark Geier&#8217;s other efforts on the Omnibus:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Accordingly, I awarded $33,130.35 (147.246 hours times $225 per hour) for the services of Dr. Geier.</blockquote></p>

	<p>No mention of payment for David Geier or Heather Young.</p>

	<p>The Special Master makes it clear that even this amount was grudgingly awarded.  Given that <strong>in the past</strong> it was reasonable to hire Mark Geier as a consultant:</p>

	<p><blockquote>I  note that it is not an easy judgment whether to award any funds for the  services of Dr. Mark Geier in this case. On balance, I conclude that, in  light of the cases awarding funds to Dr. Geier as a consultant (see p.  33 above), it was not unreasonable in this instance (several years ago)  for the <span class="caps">PSC</span> to employ Dr. Geier for consultant services.</blockquote></p>

	<p>But, after 20 years, the vaccine program may have had enough of Mark Geier:</p>

	<p><blogckquote><strong>I  will not likely be inclined to compensate attorneys in any future  opinions for consultant work performed by Mark Geier after the  publication date of this opinion.</strong></blockquote></p>

	<p>(emphasis added)</p>

	<p>If the court won&#8217;t pay his fees,  the career of Mark Geier as an expert for vaccine injury cases is over.  His son David is not likely to be taking his place, as he has not been considered even viable as a consultant by the special masters.  As noted above, Mark Geier&#8217;s license to practice medicine has been suspended (in multiple states).  David Geier was <a href="http://blogs.plos.org/thepanicvirus/2011/05/20/maryland-charges-david-geier-son-of-doc-accused-of-endangering-autistic-children-with-practicing-medicine-without-a-license/">charged with practicing medicine without a license</a>.  One has to wonder if or how the Geiers will re-emerge on the autism/vaccine scene.</p>
 
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							The Geiers themselves are <b>deeply flawed</b>.
Their actions clearly constitute fraud.
They should be condemned to Hell, by Gawd!

(Eh, I gave it a shot.) ;-)
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							Geiers go boom. Excellent. Very little money, relative to expectations, and further deterioration of their already declining reputations. Flawed is a nice start. Fraud might be next. Jailed would be a great finish.
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							"The Geiers tried some fancy footwork to get the Young-Geier study paid for by our tax dollars."

The NVICP fund are not "tax dollars" as such. The money comes from a levy on each vaccine dose.
But I agree, it is quite close to be a governmental organism.
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							---Are you the author of this report, Sullivan ?
It has a Kathleen Seidel style.
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							For rough comparison, in the Wakefield case fees claimed were the equivalent of about ten years of his salary, and the court allowed about eight years.

But then Wakefield was a bowel surgeon, and the theory of causation they made up invoked the bowels.  

To really make progress on billing for the Geiers, the PSC might have done better to invoke a causation theory for autism involving an area where he had at least paper evidence of expertise... uhm... genetics.
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A news conference today will confirm that autism/anti-vaccine groups have lost the scientific battle for the idea that vaccines cause autism as they turn to the legal battle instead. ...a new report in a New York law school journal, the Pace Environmental Law Review, could reignite the often-inflammatory debate over the issue. Based on a [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>A news conference today will confirm that autism/anti-vaccine groups have lost the scientific battle for the idea that vaccines cause autism as they turn to the <a href="http://www.fairwarning.org/2011/05/analysis-finds-evidence-of-autism-in-many-vaccine-injury-cases/">legal battle</a> instead.</p>

	<p><blockquote>...a new report in a New York law school journal, the Pace Environmental Law Review, could reignite the often-inflammatory debate over the issue. Based on a sampling of cases in which plaintiffs won settlements or awards in vaccine court, the authors found that many of the victims demonstrated evidence of autism &#8211; even though, perhaps as a legal tactic, their lawsuits emphasized other injuries.</blockquote></p>

	<p>Readers of this site might be forgiven for looking and yawning &#8211; here we go again. This is nothing but  re-hash of already discussed material. But lets look at the main claim of this  issue:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Of the 170 cases the report&#8217;s authors examined, 32, or 19 percent, provided documented evidence of autism or autism-like symptoms. The evidence in some cases included findings by the court that the children had autism, &#8220;autism-like symptoms&#8221; or &#8220;symptoms and behavior consistent with autism.&#8221; In other situations, third-party medical, educational or other court records confirmed an autistic disorder.</blockquote></p>

	<p>The report &#8211; at least in this news story &#8211; doesn&#8217;t seem to mention how many children were compensated for having autism. As we all kow &#8216;autism like symptoms&#8217; or &#8216;symptoms and behavior consistent with autism.&#8217; might be just that &#8211; but they are not autism. If they were I&#8217;m sure the court would&#8217;ve reported it.</p>

	<p>And thats not all. Nobody seems to be giving an estimate for how many of these kids actual autism (not autism-like symptoms etc) was actually caused by an actual vaccine.</p>

	<p>And thats <strong>still</strong> not all. One of the most problematic issues for this new &#8216;line of attack&#8217; is this.</p>

	<p>Daubert. This is the standard of science that should be used in legal cases. When Daubert is applied, the bottom line is that the best science must be applied. In <em>none</em> of these cases was Daubert applied. In fact, in only one instance was Daubert applied &#8211; the Autism Omnibus hearings. And as we all know, they failed.</p>

	<p>So here we have a fairly desperate roll of the dice. Eschewing science completely, the autism/anti-vaxxers have decided to turn their attention to the law. By muddying the legal waters, they are attempting to make it appear as if autism by any other name has been compensated in at least 19% of the cases they looked at.</p>

	<p>The truth is, it hasn&#8217;t. The truth is that in no cases I can see has a case been established scientifically to show vaccines cause autism.</p>


 
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							It makes so little sense to me, that they'd even try this. From my understanding, most, if not all, cases avoided the use of the term autism except to describe "autism like symptoms" because any time they did say it was autism, they'd lose.
At least, that was the situation in the Poling case, wasn't it?

Anyway, even if every case did say it was autism, all it would prove is that they never wanted drawn out court cases and just found it easier to settle with all these people.
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							The thing with the VICP, is I think, if I read somewhere right, is that the injury just  has to be "possibly" caused by the vaccine. I think if the litigators that pursue the vaccine/autism link really, honestly believed the vaccines triggered autism, they would research whether or not seizures can cause enough change in the brain to trigger autistic symptoms, because with seizure disorders, you don't have a higher percentage of "seizure like symptoms" in children with autism, you have a much higher clinical rate of seizure disorders, in clinical patients with autism than in those without autism. And ... vaccines can cause fevers.... fevers can cause seizures... Of course, the problem being, that the illnesses the vaccines prevent... can cause fevers... which can cause seizures.... hmmm...
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							If I recall correctly, the Daubert standard was *not* even used in the Autism Omnibus hearings.
Am I wrong ?  I hope so.
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							Yes,  parents will be reassured when they are told that vaccines don't cause autism, it causes brain damage.
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							We're both right ;)

It wasn't used as part of the hearings but it was used to admit evidence (or maybe it was experts, I forget which) into the record that were to be used in the hearings.
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		<title>Questions in advance of study analyzing vaccine court cases for autism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A study is in review looking at the records of the vaccine court and, purportedly, showing that a large number of the cases compensated involve autistics. Robert Kennedy Jr. was prepared to give a press conference on the paper, but this got called off. There has been chatter about a study like this for a [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>A study is in review looking at the records of the vaccine court and, purportedly, showing that a large number of the cases compensated involve autistics.  Robert Kennedy Jr. was prepared to give a press conference on the paper, <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-not-holding-a-press-conference-on-monday/">but this got called off</a>.  There has been chatter about a study like this for a few years now and I&#8217;ve been curious about what the results would be.  I was then curious why the chatter basically died down.</p>

	<p>The big question I would have for the author of this study and for Mr. Kennedy should he get his press conference is: how many of these children were compensated for a residual seizure disorder following <span class="caps">DPT</span> vaccination?</p>

	<p>Why ask that question? The &#8220;table&#8221; is a list of reactions which the Court will assume are vaccine-caused if they happen within the prescribed time after vaccination.  The table is created with the best knowledge available <em>at the time</em>.  What happens when the best knowledge available changes?  After much deliberation, the table changes.  That&#8217;s what happened to residual seizure disorders as an injury for <span class="caps">DPT</span> vaccines.  It was part of the original table, but as new research came out showing that residual seizure disorders were not a risk from <span class="caps">DPT</span> vaccines, it was removed from the table.</p>

	<p>This isn&#8217;t a small issue. The idea that residual seizure disorders could be caused following <span class="caps">DPT</span> vaccination are basically what created the Vaccine Act, the special Court and the rest of the program as we know it today.</p>

	<p>As of today,  there have been <a href="http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm">2,699 cases compensated within the program</a>.  Of those, by far the largest share is due to the <span class="caps">DPT</span> vaccine, with 1,267 compensated claims.  That&#8217;s 47%.  Pretty high percentage especially when you consider the <span class="caps">DPT </span>(the whole cell vaccine) was discontinued 15 years ago.</p>

	<p>Let&#8217;s say that there are a lot of cases in the court where autistics have been compensated for injury.  How many of these people were compensate for what was an incorrect assumption of fault?  Epilepsy is common in autistics.   It is certainly reasonable to think that a number of autistics were compensated for residual seizure disorders.</p>

	<p>It will be interesting to see how they address this question in the paper, if they address it at all.  It will be interesting to see how Mr. Kennedy addresses this problem, if he addresses it at all.</p>

	<p>If you want more details on the history, here is some of it, with some links.</p>

	<p>Take a look at the <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/300aa-14.html">original vaccine injury table (from the mid-late 1980&#8217;s)</a> for the <span class="caps">DPT</span> vaccine:</p>

	<p><blockquote><span class="caps">DTP</span>; P; <span class="caps">DTP</span>/Polio Combination; or Any Other Vaccine Containing Whole Cell Pertussis Bacteria, Extracted or Partial Cell Bacteria, or Specific Pertussis Antigen(s).<br />
Illness, disability, injury, or condition covered:Time period for first symptom or manifestation of onset or of significant aggravation after vaccine administration:<br />
A. Anaphylaxis or anaphylactic shock24 hours<br />
B. Encephalopathy (or encephalitis)       3 days<br />
C. Shock-collapse or hypotonic-hyporesponsive collapse3 days<br />
D. Residual seizure disorder in accordance with subsection (b)(2)3 days<br />
E. Any acute complication or sequela (including death) of an illness, disability, injury, or condition referred to above which illness, disability, injury, or condition arose within the time period prescribed</blockquote></p>

	<p>Take a look at the table now for pertussis containing vaccines:</p>

	<p><blockquote>I. Tetanus toxoid-containing vaccines (e.g., DTaP, Tdap, <span class="caps">DTP</span>-Hib, DT, Td,  TT)<br />
A.  Anaphylaxis or anaphylactic shock 1 0-4 hours<br />
B.  Brachial neuritis 6 2-28 days<br />
C.  Any acute complication or sequela (including death) of above events 4 Not applicable<br />
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	<p>It&#8217;s a lot shorter.  Note specifically that &#8220;Residual seizure disorder&#8221; is now gone.  Here is how residual seizure disorderwas defined:</p>

	<p><blockquote>(B) in the case of any other vaccine, the first seizure or convulsion occurred within 3 days after administration of the vaccine and 2 or more seizures or convulsions occurred within 1 year after the administration of the vaccine which were unaccompanied by fever or accompanied by a fever of less than 102 degrees Fahrenheit. </blockquote></p>

	<p>The change came in 1995.  The reasons were not arbitrary, as noted <a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-1995-02-08/pdf/95-2945.pdf">here</a> in the announcement in the Federal Register.   They were working from recently published and studies:</p>

	<p><blockquote>During the process of analyzing the comments received in response to the <span class="caps">NPRM</span>, the Agency became aware of the imminent publication of a 10-year follow-up study to the National Childhood Encephalopathy Study (NCES) (Madge N., Diamond J., Miller D., Ross E., McManus C., Wadsworth J., Yule W. The National Childhood Encephalopathy Study: <span class="caps">A 10</span>-year follow-up.  A report of the medical, social, behavioural and educational  outcomes after serious, acute, neurologic illness in early childhood. Developmental Medicine and Child Neurology 1993; Supplement No. 68;35(7):1&#8211;118; Miller D.L., Madge N., Diamond J., Wadsworth J., Ross E. Pertussis immunization and serious acute neurological illness in children. British Medical Journal 1993; 307:1171&#8211; 1176, hereinafter &#8216;&#8216;Miller study.&#8217;&#8217;).</p>

	<p>Because the Miller study looked specifically at the relationship between vaccine administration and subsequent neurological damage, the Department determined that it should not proceed with publication of the final rule until there had been a sufficient opportunity to consider the conclusions of the new Miller study. Accordingly, the Department asked the <span class="caps">IOM</span> to convene a Committee for purposes of evaluating the Miller study in light of the conclusions of its initial report. On March 2, 1994, the Institute of Medicine issued a report entitled &#8216;&#8216;DPT Vaccine and Chronic Nervous System Dysfunction: A New Analysis.&#8217;&#8217;</blockquote></p>

	<p>The pubmed link to the <span class="caps">NCES</span> study (Madge et al) is <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8319837">here</a>. The Miller study is available in full <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1505512/?tool=pubmed">here</a>.  The <span class="caps">IOM</span> report is <a href="http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=9814">here</a>.</p>

	<p>To pull one short quote out as to why the table changed:</p>

	<p><blockquote>The consensus of the Commission was that the original table in the statute requires modification to make it consistent with current medical and scientific knowledge regarding adverse events associated with certain vaccines.</blockquote></p>

	<p>Basically, they found that the research which had been used for the first Vaccine Injury Table was wrong to assume cause for residual seizure disorders following <span class="caps">DPT</span> vaccines.    Again, I await the chance to see if the upcoming paper addresses this important issue.  If a large number of the autistics were compensated for an injury which modern science says isn&#8217;t really an injury, the readers of the study need to know this.</p>
 
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							Why don't you try waiting until a study is done and reported before you try to discredit it? As a neutral in the autism vaccine war I am amazed at how obsessed the authors who publish on this site are at trying to influence the public in to believing that there can never be any neurological damage resulting from vaccines or vaccine ingredients.
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							I don't think anyone's suggesting there can never be any neurological damage resulting from vaccines or vaccine ingredients in this piece are they?
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							Sorry, Kev, but I'll go to my grave with one eye open to VAERS and the NVICP. Call me an idiot, whatever...Vaccines have saved probably millions of lives, that's true.It's hard to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Still, in regards to my son's reaction to the dpt, it was not a good day for a brain swelling.  I could not accept this until Ben's pediatrician told me it was probably due to the pertussis, which had not yet been changed.  Finally, somebody listened to me.  Seems reaction to pertussis is sometimes how Tuberous Sclerosis is identified, too.  We've been counselled to watch for signs, as we can't afford genetic testing.

Until parents are heard, and taken seriously, there will continue to be political animosity on both sides. Parents can take it too far, this is true, and get all messed up in woo...it's because they are drawn to anyone who will listen.
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							Rose, it isn't millions, it is billions.  Smallpox vaccine alone has easily saved over a billion lives.
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							"I am amazed at how obsessed the authors who publish on this site are at trying to influence the public in to believing that there can never be any neurological damage resulting from vaccines or vaccine ingredients."

I am amazed that you think you can get away with making such a brash and - dare I say it - totally accusatory statement given that the authours of this site have repeatedly had to clarify their posistion in multiple discussions across an extended period.

If you're going to pretend to be amazed at the content of this blog, at least try to demonstrate at least a smidgeon of knowledge of what that content actually is.
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		<title>Reassessing the role of mitochondrial DNA mutations in autism spectrum disorder.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Autism and mitochondrial medicine have become a very hot topic in recent years. What the connections are between autism and mitochondrial disorders has yet to be clarified. Mitochondria are little structures within cells that produce much of the energy required. Mitochondria have their own DNA (mtDNA) in addition to the nuclear DNA (nDNA) of the [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>Autism and mitochondrial medicine have become a very hot topic in recent years.    What the connections are between autism and mitochondrial disorders has yet to be clarified.  Mitochondria are little structures within cells that produce much of the energy required.  Mitochondria have their own <span class="caps">DNA </span>(mtDNA) in addition to the nuclear <span class="caps">DNA </span>(nDNA) of the cell.  nDNA is what most people think of when we hear &#8220;genes&#8221; or <span class="caps">DNA</span>.   Given the focus on mitochondrial dysfunction and autism, it is natural to consider the question: are there mutations in the mtDNA which increase the risk of autism?</p>

	<p>A new paper takes a look at the question.  They studied 148 patients with <span class="caps">ASD</span> and found, well, no support for a link to mtDNA mutations.  Here is the abstract:</p>

	<p><blockquote><span class="caps">BMC </span>Med Genet. 2011 Apr 6;12(1):50. [Epub ahead of print]<br />
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21470425">Reassessing the role of mitochondrial <span class="caps">DNA</span> mutations in autism spectrum disorder.</a><br />
Alvarez-Iglesias V, Mosquera-Miguel A, Cusco I, Carracedo A, Perez-Jurado LA, Salas A.<br />
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<span class="caps">ABSTRACT</span>:<br />
BACKGROUND: There is increasing evidence that impairment of mitochondrial energy metabolism plays an important role in the pathophysiology of autism spectrum disorders (ASD; <span class="caps">OMIM</span> number: 209850). A significant proportion of <span class="caps">ASD</span> cases display biochemical alterations suggestive of mitochondrial dysfunction and several studies have reported that mutations in the mitochondrial <span class="caps">DNA </span>(mtDNA) molecule could be involved in the disease phenotype.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">METHODS</span>: We analysed a cohort of 148 patients with idiopathic <span class="caps">ASD</span> for a number of mutations proposed in the literature as pathogenic in <span class="caps">ASD</span>. We also carried out a case control association study for the most common European haplogroups (hgs) and their diagnostic single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) by comparing cases with 753 healthy and ethnically matched controls.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">RESULTS</span>: We did not find statistical support for an association between mtDNA mutations or polymorphisms and <span class="caps">ASD</span>.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">CONCLUSIONS</span>: Our results are compatible with the idea that mtDNA mutations are not a relevant cause of <span class="caps">ASD</span> and the frequent observation of concomitant mitochondrial dysfunction and <span class="caps">ASD</span> could be due to nuclear factors influencing mitochondrion functions or to a more complex interplay between the nucleus and the mitochondrion/mtDNA.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">PMID</span>: 21470425 [PubMed &#8211; as supplied by publisher]Free Article</blockquote></p>

	<p>This is consistent with previous studies, as noted in a recent review article which was itself summarized at <a href="http://thinkingautismguide.blogspot.com/">The Thinking Person&#8217;s Guide to Autism</a> by Emily Willingham as <a href="http://thinkingautismguide.blogspot.com/2011/03/mitochondrial-disease-and-autism-linked.html">Mitochondrial Disease and Autism: Linked?</a></p>

	<p>Ms. Willingham noted there:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Thus, tracking down mitochondrial dysfunction in the context of <span class="caps">ASD</span> to a specific mutation has remained an elusive goal. Two scenarios are likely for this lack of mutational findings: (1) there are mutations, but we just haven&#8217;t found them yet; or (2) the environment is largely responsible for any mitochondrial dysfunction that abnormal marker levels might indicate.</blockquote></p>

	<p>This paper is available as a <a href="http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2350-12-50.pdf">free manuscript online</a>.  Here is the</p>

	<p><blockquote>Although it is widely accepted that some forms of <span class="caps">ASD</span> appear concomitantly with the impairment of mitochondrial energy metabolism, there are reasons to believe that the cause of these mitochondrial disorders does not systematically rest on mutations or variants in the mtDNA molecule. Pathogenic mtDNA mutations have been reported in <span class="caps">ASD</span> patients, but this seems to be the exception rather than the rule. It is more likely that the real causes of mitochondrial deficiencies in some <span class="caps">ASD</span> cases are due to the intervention of several nuclear factors acting alone (additively or epistatically) or through a complex interplay with mtDNA variants. For the time being, while the cause for mitochondrion dysfunction in <span class="caps">ASD</span> remains unclear, there is no reason to indicate systematic screening for mtDNA mutations in <span class="caps">ASD</span> patients unless a mitochondrion disorder is suggested by a clear phenotype.</blockquote></p>

	<p>What is also interesting to me is the table of characteristics of the study subjects.  In particular, there is a big difference in the percentage with epilepsy and dimorphism between adults and children:</p>

	<p><a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Mito_Table1.png"><img src="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Mito_Table1-300x163.png" alt="" title="Mito_Table1" width="300" height="163" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-8596" /></a></p>

	<p>Mitochondrial dysfunction is listed as mild and somewhat infrequent (about 10%).  Not the very high prevalences of mitochondrial dysfunction that some have suggested are present in autitics.   This does beg the question: should this genetic study be performed on those with some measure of mitochondrial dysfunction?</p>

	<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that mitochondrial dysfunction isn&#8217;t an important area for autism research, or that a genetic study such as this shouldn&#8217;t be done on a larger group with some measure of mitochondrial dysfunction.</p>

	<p>Of course it would be great to hear that there is something definitive in this study.  As in, &#8220;this is it!&#8221; rather than &#8220;this probably isn&#8217;t it&#8221;.    Mitochondrial <span class="caps">DNA</span> mutations &#8220;probably isn&#8217;t it&#8221; when it comes to the etiology of <span class="caps">ASD</span> in most people.</p>
 
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							Hi Sullivan - 

It just gets weirder and weirder.  

My thoughts are, it looks like they searched for 'well known' mutations in mtDNA.  I would note with small amusement that Hannah Polings mutation was undocumented, and by these standards, would have failed to show up.  

IIRC, the Giulivi study (a much smaller study), which purported to find changes in mtDNA, didn't look for well known mutations, so much as differences in the <i>number</i> of mtDNA and whether or not there were additions or deletions to the code; which <i>I think</i> would be acquired due to problems during replication opposed to inherited mtDNA problems.  

Regarding epilepsy, I thought (?) that in many cases, onset of seizures happened in adolescence or early adulthood, which might speak towards the discrepancy. 

Regarding dismorphism, if what we are witnessing in our children ins a <i>new phenomena</i>, I don't think it would necessarily be unusual for different age cohorts to have differences in this regard.  

Also, it looked to me like the adult cohort were all institutionalized individuals; I didn't see anywhere that severity was notated for the children.  If they were the more common mixture of the spectrum of ASD, that could also provide some problems.

Nice article.  

- pD
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							pD--

It is getting pretty strange, isn't it.  Nice catch that the adults were institutionalized.  Somehow that passed by me.
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							I thought that the paper linked below was more interesting and more thorough than the newer article that is the subject of this post:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21404085
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							brian,

I found that paper quite interesting--at least in abstract form.
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/03/proton-magnetic-resonance-spectroscopy-and-mri-reveal-no-evidence-for-brain-mitochondrial-dysfunction-in-children-with-autism-spectrum-disorder/

It looks like the paper itself is available now--I'll have to obtain it.
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							Ah! I'd forgotten that you had already blogged about it.

Strangely, I still expect that mitochondrial issues <I>should</I> be common in ASD, since dysregulation of the expression of the regulatory protein MeCP2 (MECP2 mutations cause Rett syndrome) is apparently quite common in the brains of autistic individuals <I>and</I> affects the expression of mitochondrial respiratory chain proteins (mitochondrial problems are common in children with Rett syndrome, as are the sort of metabolic issues found in the Giulivi study.)
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		</div>	<p>My guess is that you are reading this thinking: this is news?  Doesn&#8217;t pretty much every day go by without Robert F. Kennedy holding a press conference?   Well, yes.  But there was a press conference planned for Monday.  Yes, the man who brought you &#8220;Deadly Immunity&#8221; (an article promoting the mercury/autism link that was so flawed that it was retracted by Salon.com and quietly removed from the Rolling Stone website) has something so new and important that he wants to tell the world about it from in front of the White House.</p>

	<p>The subject?  A study purportedly showing that many autistic kids have been compensated over the years by the <a href="http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/ ">National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program</a> (a fact that has been public knowledge for 9 years or more).  The article, under review by his University&#8217;s law journal, appears to be the one which was touted as ongoing a few years ago (I recall this being on a piece by David Kirby on the Huffington Post before he focused on his new project of food safety).</p>

	<p>That press conference, from what I&#8217;ve heard, has been put off until after the paper is actually accepted and published.</p>

	<p>Here&#8217;s the background history:</p>

	<p>1) The US adopts a National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program in the mid-late 1980&#8217;s.</p>

	<p>2) Autistic kids are amongst those compensated.</p>

	<p>3) The concept of a vaccine-induced autism epidemic gains momentum in the late 1990&#8217;s.</p>

	<p>4) Enough cases are submitted to the Program that an Omnibus proceeding is started to cover all the cases.</p>

	<p>5) The first item added to the docket, <a href="http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/autism/Autism+General+Order1.pdf">Autism General Order #1</a>, tells attorneys to be aware that autistics with table injuries should be handled outside the Omnibus for faster processing. (year 2002)</p>

	<p><blockquote>One important caveat, however, is drawn to the attention of all petitioners and their counsel! There may be cases involving autistic-like disorders which manifested following an injury defined in the Vaccine Injury Table. That is, a vaccine may have suffered an episode involving a severe acute encephalopathy within 72 hours after a pertussis vaccination (DTP or DTaP), or 5 to 15 days after an <span class="caps">MMR</span> vaccination. If so, such an acute encephalopathy and any residual effects thereof would be presumed to be vaccine-caused pursuant to the Vaccine Injury Table. </blockquote></p>

	<p>and</p>

	<p><blockquote>Autism cases involving Table Injuries have been compensated under the Program. If in a particular case there exist medical records demonstrating that such a qualifying &#8220;acute encephalopathy&#8221; occurred within the appropriate time frame, petitioner or counsel should bring that to the assigned special master&#8217;s attention so that, if appropriate, the case can be processed without delay as a Table Injury.</blockquote></p>

	<p>6) The government concedes Hannah Poling&#8217;s case as a table injury (late 2007) and the Hannah Poling concession was leaked while still in process.  (Feb. 2008).</p>

	<p>7) Given the news focus generated, then Chief Special Master Gary Golkiewicz <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23519029/ns/health-mental_health/">was quoted</a>:</p>

	<p><blockquote>&#8220;Years ago, actually, I had a case, before we understood or knew the implications of autism, that the vaccine injured the child&#8217;s brain caused an encephalopathy,&#8221; he said. And the symptoms that come with that &#8220;fall within the broad rubric of autism.&#8221;</p>

	<p>And there are other somewhat similar cases, Golkiewicz says, that were decided before autism and its symptoms were more clearly defined.</blockquote></p>

	<p>8) <a href="http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/148/">Kathleen Siedel found a number of cases </a>which were in the public record involving vaccine injury cases compensated.  This list then appeared in many places, including a journal paper.</p>

	<p>9) it was signaled that a new study was in the works where the prevalence of autism was notably higher amongst people compensated in the vaccine-injury program.</p>

	<p>10) The autism prevalence estimate in the US was increased to 1 in 100, up from 1 in 150.  Whether this had an impact on the apparent delay of (9) I can&#8217;t say.</p>

	<p>Short form: we&#8217;ve been waiting for years for the study which will show us that the fraction of kids compensated by the Court is higher than expected.  Now it appears that the study is in process and in a law journal.  And that Robert F. Kennedy wanted to tell us all about it on Monday.   But that won&#8217;t happen now, apparently.  Apparently even law journals have embargoes.</p>

	<p>Even though the press conference seems to be canceled for now, I guess that sometime in the near future Robert F. Kennedy will confirm what is and has been public knowledge.  This will be followed by a blog storm acting as though this is news.  Perhaps I&#8217;ll be surprised and something new will be in the announcement.</p>

	<p>So far, the fraction of children with <span class="caps">ASD</span> diagnoses who have been compensated by the <a href="http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm">Autism Omnibus Proceeding is 1 in 838</a>.  This isn&#8217;t a fair estimate of what the final fraction will be, as many of those cases dismissed are for procedural issues like failure to prosecute and timeliness of filing.  For that one compensated case, there is the note:</p>

	<p><blockquote>*May include case(s) that were originally filed and processed as an <span class="caps">OAP</span> cases but in which the final adjudication does not include a finding of vaccine-related autism.</p>

	<p>**HHS has never concluded in any case that autism was caused by vaccination.</blockquote></p>
 
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		<description><![CDATA[A study published today looks for mitochondrial dysfunction in autistic children. In specific, the researchers are looking directly at the brains of autistic children. The team, from the University of Washington, used both MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) and proton magnetic resonance spectroscropic imaging (HRMS). MRI gives structural information on soft tissues. HMRS is a &#8220;spectroscopic&#8221; [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>A study published today looks for mitochondrial dysfunction in autistic children.  In specific, the researchers are looking directly at the brains of autistic children.  The team, from the University of Washington, used both <span class="caps">MRI </span>(Magnetic Resonance Imaging) and proton magnetic resonance spectroscropic imaging (HRMS).  <span class="caps">MRI</span> gives structural information on soft tissues.  <span class="caps">HMRS</span> is a &#8220;spectroscopic&#8221; techinque: it gives chemical information on<br />
Here&#8217;s a good reference with a discussion of <span class="caps">HMRS</span> on brain tissue (as a spectroscopy, not an imaging technique): <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC21063/?tool=pubmed">Quantitative neuropathology by high resolution magic angle spinning proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy</a></p>

	<p>With that background in hand, here is the abstract from the recent study on autism:</p>

	<p><blockquote><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21404085">Proton Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy and <span class="caps">MRI </span>Reveal No Evidence for Brain Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder</a>.</p>

	<p>Corrigan NM, Shaw DW, Richards TL, Estes AM, Friedman SD, Petropoulos H, Artru AA, Dager SR.</p>

	<p>Department of Radiology, University of Washington, Seattle, WA, <span class="caps">USA</span>.<br />
Abstract</p>

	<p>Brain mitochondrial dysfunction has been proposed as an etiologic factor in autism spectrum disorder (ASD). Proton magnetic resonance spectroscopic imaging ((1)HMRS) and <span class="caps">MRI</span> were used to assess for evidence of brain mitochondrial dysfunction in longitudinal samples of children with <span class="caps">ASD</span> or developmental delay (DD), and cross-sectionally in typically developing (TD) children at 3-4, 6-7 and 9-10 years-of-age. A total of 239 studies from 130 unique participants (54ASD, 22DD, 54TD) were acquired. (1)HMRS and <span class="caps">MRI</span> revealed no evidence for brain mitochondrial dysfunction in the children with <span class="caps">ASD</span>. Findings do not support a substantive role for brain mitochondrial abnormalities in the etiology or symptom expression of <span class="caps">ASD</span>, nor the widespread use of hyperbaric oxygen treatment that has been advocated on the basis of this proposed relationship.</blockquote></p>

	<p>Does this mean that mitochondrial dysfunction never occurs in autistics?  No.  But it makes it very unlikely that more than a fraction of autistics have mitochondrial dysfunction in their brains.</p>

	<p>Beyond that, the use of spectroscopic imaging is very impressive to me.  <span class="caps">MRI</span> structural data is quite valuable on its own, but adding chemical information is very powerful.</p>
 
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							Hi Sullivan - 

I saw this and am struggling with it when compared to what was reported in <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=autism%20mitochondria%20chauhan" rel="nofollow">Brain region-specific deficit in mitochondrial electron transport chain complexes in children with autism</i>. 

To me, these findings would seem to be at odds with other findings of oxidative stress in the CNS, but those were very small.  [difficult to get post mortem brain tissue]

Have you read the paper yet?  I haven't been able to get a copy yet.  I must admit I have even less than my usual clue re: HRMS.  

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							This is interesting and continues on the pattern of studies raising more questions than answers. I wonder if anyone knows when these studies are undertaken do they differentiate children born ASD from those with the regressive type?
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							Hmm...I'm having trouble accessing the full text (has anyone managed to?) and from the abstract it's not clear what they actually did. What is an MRI or MRS measure of mitochondrial dysfunction? How sensitive is it? Does it reliably detect mitochondrial dysfunction in people who verifiably do have it?

Until we know that, it's hard to interpret this.
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							I haven't seen the full text either, but MRS is magnetic resonance spectroscopy is used to measure the specific chemical environment of specific protons and so can tell how much of which type are present.  What is important in mitochondrial disorders is what the ATP level is.  That can be measured with MRS by looking at the protons that are on the phosphates of ATP.  You can also measure pH.  

If the ATP levels in the brains of people with ASDs are “the same” as in the brains of people who are NT, that is very good evidence that the mitochondria in both are behaving “the same” and that there are no mitochondrial disorders.  

If there were mitochondrial disorders in ASDs, then you would expect to see reductions in ATP levels.  

MRI is magnetic resonance imaging and looks (mostly) at the distribution of the mobility of protons, are the protons attached to something, or are they free to move and if they move, in what directions and how fast.  That can look at structures that hold moving fluids, like blood vessels, and also axons which have a large aspect ratio (long but not wide) so the diffusion inside them is anisotropic.  CSF in the spaces between the different parts of the brain has pretty much isotropic diffusion so it shows up pretty easily.  MRI looks at the contrast between those things and that contrast shows up as outlining the physical structures of the brain.
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							if you want to email me at catherinajtv at gmail dot com I have the full text.
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		<description><![CDATA[Mitochondrial disease and autism. I don&#8217;t read about it as much as during the peak of the Hannah Poling story, but it is a big topic. Emily Willingham at Thinking Person&#8217;s Guide to Autism has put together an excellent post on the subject. Here&#8217;s the first paragraph: Hannah Poling&#8217;s family entered the national spotlight when [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>Mitochondrial disease and autism. I don&#8217;t read about it as much as during the peak of the Hannah Poling story, but it is a big topic.  Emily Willingham at<br />
<a href="http://thinkingautismguide.blogspot.com">Thinking Person&#8217;s Guide to Autism</a> has put together an excellent post on the subject.  Here&#8217;s the first paragraph:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Hannah Poling&#8217;s family entered the national spotlight when they revealed that Hannah&#8217;s autism-like symptoms may have been linked to a reaction to several childhood vaccines at once in combination with her mitochondrial dysfunction. Her case was not the first revelation of a possible mitochondrial disorder (MD)-autism spectrum disorder (ASD) link, but because of her ultimately successful vaccine injury suit, she became the avatar of the vaccines-cause-harm movement&#8212;which almost eclipsed the real scientific and therapeutic feature of her case: the mitochondria.</blockquote></p>

	<p>I&#8217;d love to do a wholesale copy of the post, but that&#8217;s hardly fair now, is it?  So, I&#8217;ll send you all to the <a href="http://thinkingautismguide.blogspot.com">Thinking Person&#8217;s Guide to Autism</a> and <a href="http://thinkingautismguide.blogspot.com/2011/03/mitochondrial-disease-and-autism-linked.html">Mitochondrial Disease and Autism: Linked?</a></p>
 
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							The paper reviewed on the Thinking Person's Guide is here:
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/mp2010136a.html

I had a few reservations about it (the original paper), in that it seems to 'sneak' in a few dodgy assumptions about things like thimerisol, and flaky GI studies then it ends with a shopping list of suggested supplements that have mainly theoretical or anecdotal support. The journal is a new online journal, encouraging open access which is geat, although the authors of this paper would have had to pay $3000 for immediate online release. Ouch.

Which is not to say that there are any problems with the cell metabolism parts of the paper which formed the main part of the precis linked to. A phrase I like in Emily W's review was "In other words, they took the GI results and used them to seed an entire acre of hypotheses to investigate." I am glad that someone knowledgeable in the field has taken a look at the paper for ignorami (ignoramusses?) like myself, who can sort out fact from guesswork. 

It looks like a lot of the paper is based on fact, it is the extrapolations that need to be treated with caution (as Emily writes). A worry is that people without a cell science background are not going to know where science ends and guessing begins, upon running into the paper online.

So I was not surprised when in the last week I ran into mention of the lead author on this site:
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/03/lawsuit-against-alternative-medical-practitioners-usman-and-rossignal/

And find out that one of the treatments the lead author is investigating is HBOT:
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/03/autism-hbot-and-the-new-study-by-rossignol-et-al/
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							Yes, it was a well written piece by Emily. Even I understood.
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		<title>Are you a petitioner in the Omnibus Autism Proceeding?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Families who have filed claims as part of the Omnibus Autism Proceeding, OAP, should read the latest update from the Court. Many families who filed can&#8217;t be found, by the court or by their attorneys. They need to contact the court if they wish to keep their cases going. Otherwise they risk the cases being [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>Families who have filed claims as part of the Omnibus Autism Proceeding, <span class="caps">OAP</span>, should read the<a href="http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/autism/Autism%20Update%201%2012%2011.pdf"> latest update</a> from the Court.</p>

	<p>Many families who filed can&#8217;t be found, by the court or by their attorneys.  They need to contact the court if they wish to keep their cases going.  Otherwise they risk the cases being dismissed.</p>

	<p>I find this an interesting point.  People have moved on, literally.  They filed and they haven&#8217;t kept in contact to continue their cases.</p>

	<p>Also, the Petitioner&#8217;s Steering Committee (the group of attorneys working together on the Omnibus) has dissolved.</p>

	<p>The Omnibus is over.  Petitioners can either exit the vaccine program, go ahead with the theories the petitioners steering committee proposed and tried (and lost), or come up with new theories.</p>
 
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							Kev, what are you, exactly ? A doctor who makes vaccines and gets paid royalties ? A disgruntled and angry parent who *got stuck* with an Autistic kid ? A scientist ? An American Lawyer ? Well, if you're an AMerican lawyer, you're not a very good one.

I find your causation skills slightly less than American apes. I have Autism and a regressive Autism vaccine injury in top of that, and even I am intelligent enough to figure out the causation element here you ASSUME / conjecture to be true is anything but. 

A review of the Vaccine Court, within the American Federal Court System is in order. In 1943, Kanner notified the World of the discovery of Autism (Affective "Disorder"). In the 1960s, the U.S. Congress passed the Architectural Barriers Act requiring ALL Federal Buildings, including Federal Courthouses such as the Vaccine Court to be mace meaningfully accessible to people with anatomical differences, sensory and communication physical handicaps. Autism is a neurologically anatomical difference, with brain stem sensory, and brain systemwide communication "handicaps." A handicap is the structure of the societal system imposed by others that create barriers for disabled Americans, including not only children with Autism, but their parenbts who have not been discovered to have many of the same traits, and certainly, MOST certainly for the adults Autism victims of the United States' genocidal vaccine program on the genetically susceptible Autism adults many of whom were born in the 1950s and 1960s.

In the United States, we should be long passed the era when Tarzan and Jane roamed TV sets in the American Courthouse. Yet, in MODERN TIMES (2011), U.S. Federal Courthouses and Federal Buildings are STILL not Autism meaningfully accessible in compliance with the Architectural Barriers Act, Sec. 504 and 508 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, amended, Title II ADA ADAAG, U.S. Courts Design Guide, or the U.S. Judicial Conference Communications Disability Act (Policy) for Autistic children, parents who we have not recognized have many of the same Autistic traits, and MOST certainly NOT for (Alexander v. Choate, US Sup.) the adults with Autism, many of whom were born in the 1950s and 1960s.

What does meaningful access include ? For one thing, it inclides "notice" to be "reasonably calculated" to actually reach and be understood and able to be acted upon by the persent it is served upon. Here is wher your so-called "causation" (CONJECTURE PARENTS ARE GIVING UP ON THEIR VACCINE COURT PROCEEDINGS BY THE FALSE AND FALLACIOUS ASSUMPTION THEIR CASES HAVE NO MERIT) breaks down: we now know "reasonably calculated" due process notice for genetically Autistic people requires INTERNET COMPUTER / AAC notice, not paper poo poo phony notice the Autistically Indigenous and culturally distinct people cannot language process to reach them synaptically. See generally, Mullane v. Central Hanover, US Sup. MILLIONS of Autism Vaccine injured adults and genetically susceptible families have been DENIED ACCESS IN CONTRAVENTION OF INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS TREATIES, THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, ALL THOSE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE ACCESS LAWS / RULES, AND THE *new* U.S. GENETIC DISCRIMINATION ACT. 

Therefore, analytically, your speculations (and obvious DISLIKE for the Autism vaccine injured people), as well as this really stupid unthought article, PROVE ...

absolutely NOTHING ! - beyond the fact it is NOT the Autism vaccine injured savants who are the Idiots.
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Kev, what are you, exactly ? A doctor who makes vaccines and gets paid royalties ? A disgruntled and angry parent who *got stuck* with an Autistic kid ? A scientist ? An American Lawyer ? Well, if you're an American lawyer, you're not a very good one.

I find your causation skills slightly less than American apes. I have Autism and a regressive Autism vaccine injury in top of that, and even I am intelligent enough to figure out the causation element here you ASSUME / conjecture to be true is anything but. 

A review of the Vaccine Court, within the American Federal Court System is in order. In 1943, Kanner notified the World of the discovery of Autism (Affective "Disorder"). In the 1960s, the U.S. Congress passed the Architectural Barriers Act requiring ALL Federal Buildings, including Federal Courthouses such as the Vaccine Court to be made meaningfully accessible to people with anatomical differences, sensory and communication physical handicaps. Autism is a neurologically anatomical difference, with brain stem sensory, and brain systemwide communication "handicaps." A handicap is the structure of the societal system imposed by others that create barriers for disabled Americans, including not only children with Autism, but their parents who have now been discovered to have many of the same traits, and certainly, MOST certainly, for the adults Autism victims of the United States' genocidal and reckless (live polio virus in the Salk vaccine - one of many "Oooopsies") vaccine program on the genetically susceptible Autism adults many of whom were born in the 1950s and 1960s.

In the United States, we should be long passed the era when Tarzan and Jane roamed TV sets in the American Courthouse. Yet, in MODERN TIMES (2011), U.S. Federal Courthouses and Federal Buildings are STILL not Autism meaningfully accessible in compliance with the Architectural Barriers Act, Sec. 504 and 508 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, amended, Title II ADA ADAAG, U.S. Courts Design Guide, or the U.S. Judicial Conference Communications Disability Act (Policy) for Autistic children, parents who we have not recognized have many of the same Autistic traits, and MOST certainly NOT for (Alexander v. Choate, US Sup.) the adults with Autism, many of whom were born in the 1950s and 1960s. They might as well be holding Vaccine Court in a cave with a robo-stamp.

What does meaningful access include ? For one thing, it includes "notice" to be "reasonably calculated" to actually reach and be understood and able to be acted upon by the person it is served upon. Here is where your so-called "causation" (CONJECTURE PARENTS ARE GIVING UP ON THEIR VACCINE COURT PROCEEDINGS BY THE FALSE AND FALLACIOUS ASSUMPTION THEIR CASES HAVE NO MERIT) breaks down: we now know "reasonably calculated" due process notice for genetically Autistic people and Autism vaccine injured victims requires INTERNET COMPUTER / AAC notice, not paper poo poo phony "non"-notice the Autistically Indigenous and culturally distinct people cannot language process to reach them synaptically. See generally, Mullane v. Central Hanover, US Sup.

MILLIONS of Autism Vaccine injured adults and genetically susceptible families have been DENIED ACCESS TO THE U.S. VACCINE COURT IN CONTRAVENTION OF INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS TREATIES, THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, ALL THOSE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE ACCESS LAWS / RULES, AND THE *new* U.S. GENETIC DISCRIMINATION ACT BECAUSE INTERNET / AAC ACCESS IS NOT BEING PROVIDED BY THE VACCINE COURT. Thus, all those lost sheep of the Vaccine Court can add to their claim counts, "The Due Process Synaptically Injured." 

Therefore, analytically, your speculations (and obvious DISLIKE for the Autism vaccine injured people), as well as this really stupid unthought article, PROVE ...

absolutely NOTHING ! 

- beyond the fact it is NOT the Autism vaccine injured savants who are the Idiots.
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							Further corr: (You blocked off the edit function to intentionally discriminate against a known Autism vaccine injury victim as means to censor speech and misrepresent your argument as having any merit), so I am forced to re-poist and corr: to get an edit.

we should be long passed the era when Tarzan and Jane roamed TV sets in the American Courthouse = we should be long past the era when Tarzan and Jane roamed TV sets in the American Courthouse

for Autistic children, parents who we have not recognized have many of the same Autistic traits = for Autistic children, parents who we have now recognized have many of the same Autistic traits
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		<description><![CDATA[A recent paper from the MIND Institute, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) entitled Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Autism caused a bit of a stir. One which is far beyond what is supported by the paper&#8217;s conclusions or data, I will add. The study is very small: 10 autistic children and 10 [...]]]></description>
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		</div>	<p>A recent paper from the <a href="www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/mindinstitute/"><span class="caps">MIND </span>Institute</a>, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) entitled <a href="http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/304/21/2389.short">Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Autism</a> caused a bit of a stir.  One which is far beyond what is supported by the paper&#8217;s conclusions or data, I will add.</p>

	<p>The study is very small: 10 autistic children and 10 controls.   The authors used a very nonstandard methodology.  Perhaps the best summary of this study so far can be found on the Simons Foundation blog <span class="caps">SFARI </span>(<a href="https://sfari.org/news-and-commentary/open-article/-/journal_content/56/12736/101202-MITOCHONDRIA-DEFECTS-LINKED-AUTISM">Defects in mitochondria linked to autism</a>).  Deborah Rudacille discusses the methodology and brings in quotes from the study&#8217;s lead author (<a href=" http://biosci3.ucdavis.edu/FacultyAndResearch/FacultyProfile.aspx?FacultyID=14245">Cecilia Giulivi</a>) as well as established experts in the  field of mitochondrial disease and autism such as <a href="http://www.faculty.uci.edu/scripts/ucifacultyprofiles/detaildept.cfm?id=2313">Jay Gargas</a>.</p>

	<p>Before I get too far ahead of myself, here is the abstract:</p>

	<p><blockquote>Context Impaired mitochondrial function may influence processes highly dependent on energy, such as neurodevelopment, and contribute to autism. No studies have evaluated mitochondrial dysfunction and mitochondrial <span class="caps">DNA </span>(mtDNA) abnormalities in a well-defined population of children with autism.</p>

	<p>Objective To evaluate mitochondrial defects in children with autism.</p>

	<p>Design, Setting, and Patients Observational study using data collected from patients aged 2 to 5 years who were a subset of children participating in the Childhood Autism Risk From Genes and Environment study in California, which is a population-based, case-control investigation with confirmed autism cases and age-matched, genetically unrelated, typically developing controls, that was launched in 2003 and is still ongoing. Mitochondrial dysfunction and mtDNA abnormalities were evaluated in lymphocytes from 10 children with autism and 10 controls.</p>

	<p>Main Outcome Measures Oxidative phosphorylation capacity, mtDNA copy number and deletions, mitochondrial rate of hydrogen peroxide production, and plasma lactate and pyruvate.</p>

	<p>Results The reduced nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NADH) oxidase activity (normalized to citrate synthase activity) in lymphocytic mitochondria from children with autism was significantly lower compared with controls (mean, 4.4 [95% confidence interval {CI}, 2.8-6.0] vs 12 [95% CI, 8-16], respectively; P = .001). The majority of children with autism (6 of 10) had complex I activity below control range values. Higher plasma pyruvate levels were found in children with autism compared with controls (0.23 mM [95% CI, 0.15-0.31 mM] vs 0.08 mM [95% CI, 0.04-0.12 mM], respectively; P = .02). Eight of 10 cases had higher pyruvate levels but only 2 cases had higher lactate levels compared with controls. These results were consistent with the lower pyruvate dehydrogenase activity observed in children with autism compared with controls (1.0 [95% CI, 0.6-1.4] nmol &#215; [min &#215; mg protein]?1 vs 2.3 [95% CI, 1.7-2.9] nmol &#215; [min &#215; mg protein]?1, respectively; P = .01). Children with autism had higher mitochondrial rates of hydrogen peroxide production compared with controls (0.34 [95% CI, 0.26-0.42] nmol &#215; [min &#215; mg of protein]?1 vs 0.16 [95% CI, 0.12-0.20] nmol &#215; [min &#215; mg protein]?1 by complex <span class="caps">III</span>; P = .02). Mitochondrial <span class="caps">DNA</span> overreplication was found in 5 cases (mean ratio of mtDNA to nuclear <span class="caps">DNA</span>: 239 [95% CI, 217-239] vs 179 [95% CI, 165-193] in controls; P = 10?4). Deletions at the segment of cytochrome b were observed in 2 cases (ratio of cytochrome b to <span class="caps">ND1</span>: 0.80 [95% CI, 0.68-0.92] vs 0.99 [95% CI, 0.93-1.05] for controls; P = .01).</p>

	<p>Conclusion In this exploratory study, children with autism were more likely to have mitochondrial dysfunction, mtDNA overreplication, and mtDNA deletions than typically developing children. </blockquote></p>

	<p>As the abstract states, the <span class="caps">MIND </span>Institute study methodology involved:  &#8220;Mitochondrial dysfunction and mtDNA abnormalities were evaluated in lymphocytes from 10 children with autism and 10 controls&#8221;. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphocyte"> Lymphocytes </a> (a type of white blood cell).  Children were concecutively recruited and genetically unrelated. Mitochondrial function was tested first, and given the results seen, children were brought back for a second blood draw where mitochondrial <span class="caps">DNA </span>(mDNA) and nuclear <span class="caps">DNA </span>(nDNA) were examined.</p>

	<p>As shown in the figure below, they found that the autistic children had different mitochondrial activity levels than their controls.   Note that &#8220;low&#8221; activity is not referenced to any standardized norms, but to the 10 control children.</p>

	<p><a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/MIND_mito_1.png"><img src="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/MIND_mito_1-300x196.png" alt="" title="MIND_mito_1" width="300" height="196" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-6881" /></a></p>

	<p>They also performed genetic testing.  Table 3 from the paper is reproduced below:</p>

	<p><a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/MIND_mito_2.png"><img src="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/MIND_mito_2-300x243.png" alt="" title="MIND_mito_2" width="300" height="243" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-6882" /></a></p>

	<p>They show that, by their methodology, 7 of their 10 autistic kids have some form of genetic signature for mitochondrial dysfunction.  2 of 10 of their controls meet their criteria as well.</p>

	<p>The Simons blog quotes the study author, Prof. Giulivi on this choice:</p>

	<p><blockquote>&#8220;Lymphocytes do not rely as heavily on mitochondria as the brain does,&#8221; she says, &#8220;so if this is happening in cells that don&#8217;t use mitochondria as much, it&#8217;s likely to be happening in cells that rely more heavily on mitochondria, like neurons.&#8221;</blockquote></p>

	<p>They also quote <a href="http://www.baylorclinic.com/find-a-doctor/details/index.cfm?id=706">Dr. Fernando Scaglia</a>, of the Baylor Clinic:</p>

	<p><blockquote>However, the unconventional decision to use lymphocytes should have been validated, says Fernando Scaglia, associate professor of molecular and human genetics at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. &#8220;I&#8217;m not saying that studies done in lymphocytes are useless,&#8221; says Scaglia, an expert in inherited metabolic disease. &#8220;But they should be validated in other tissue.&#8221;</blockquote></p>

	<p>and Prof. Gargas of the University of California at Irvine:</p>

	<p><blockquote>&#8220;Lymphocytes are fine to study chromosomal <span class="caps">DNA</span>, but they are a horrible source for studying mitochondrial <span class="caps">DNA</span>,&#8221; he says.</p>

	<p>Cells have hundreds of mitochondria, each with multiple copies of the <span class="caps">DNA</span>. In people with mitochondrial disease, some cells have healthy <span class="caps">DNA</span> and others have the mutated copies, he notes. In a blood sample, defective lymphoctyes tend to get lost among rapidly proliferating healthy cells.</p>

	<p>&#8220;The best source for studying mitochondria are post-mitotic cells such as muscle,&#8221; he says. &#8220;That way you are sampling the set of cells the child was born with.&#8221;</blockquote></p>

	<p>In the end, if we stick to the idea that this is a very preliminary report and relies on a new unproven methodology at that, we can consider the study as posing interesting questions.  Is mitochondrial dysfunction more prevalent in autistics than the general population?  Are there ways to test this in a faster, less intrusive manner than is often used?  If we take this study in context, there may be some value.  Unfortunately as <a href="http://sethmnookin.com/2010/12/14/the-huffington-post-featuring-bad-science-facile-reasoning-since-2005/#more-210">Seth Mnookin has already pointed out</a>, this study has  already been used to promote ideas that are clearly outside of the study and conclusions.   This is the unfortunate world of autism research: it is hard for people to push the boundaries and risk being wrong.  Not because it may cause the researchers some embarrassment, but because there are a multitude of people waiting to misuse information and mislead.</p>
 
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							Sullivan, the data in the table doesn't show any changes in mitochondrial DNA.  What is shows is differences in the ratio of how much mitochondrial DNA there is compared to how much nuclear DNA there is.  

Essentially this is a measure of how many mitochondria there are in the cell because each mitochondrion has its own little bit of mitochondrial DNA and the nucleus has its big bit of nuclear DNA.  

These measurements are only relevant to the cells they looked at.  Since they looked at lymphocytes, this is about how many mitochondria there are in those blood cells.    Lymphocytes don't require mitochondria to make ATP, lymphocytes can operate anaerobically by doing glycolysis.  That is necessary because lymphocytes might need to operate in an anaerobic infected tissue compartment.  What lymphocytes use mitochondria for is to make hydrogen peroxide to destroy extracellular bacteria by using that H2O2 along with extracellular myeloperoxidase.  

The comment by Prof Gargos is correct (and I think doesn't go far enough).  Lymphocytes come from blood stem cells and have a pretty short lifetime.  They turnover pretty fast and there are cases of people with actual mitochondrial DNA defects in lymphocytes, losing those defects as they age because the stem cells without the defect replicate more and eventually replace those with the defects.  

DNA damage in a lymphocyte isn't a big deal because the lymphocyte isn't going to replicate itself.  It will simply die when it gets worn out.  DNA damage is how lymphocytes get worn out.  

The measurements they show don't demonstrate that there is a “mitochondrial defect” in those children.  Differences yes, but not necessarily “mitochondrial defects”.  The differences are more likely to be due to differential regulation of mitochondria in lymphocytes as a part of the global physiological differences in autism, rather than being due to any “mitochondrial defect”.
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							Hi Sullivan - 

Nice post.  I've been working on a post on this topic for a while, but keep getting lost in the details and I'm slow to start with. 

Anyway, I had some thoughts on your posting. 

<i>As shown in the figure below, they found that the autistic children had different mitochondrial activity levels than their controls. Note that “low” activity is not referenced to any standardized norms, but to the 10 control children.</i>

I'm not sure how much hay we should really make of this.   It is <i>possible</i> that they found a control group with very well functioning mitochondria, but it is unlikely.  And it also doesn't do anything to speak towards the <i><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19608392" rel="nofollow">other</a></i> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15679182" rel="nofollow">biomarker</a> studies we have indicating the same thing; or the other population study that found very similar values.  

To my mind, the statements by Gargas point towards an ongoing, acquired problem with mitochondrial function in autism, as opposed to a maternally inherited problem. 

<i>Cells have hundreds of mitochondria, each with multiple copies of the DNA. In people with mitochondrial disease, some cells have healthy DNA and others have the mutated copies, he notes. <b>In a blood sample, defective lymphoctyes tend to get lost among rapidly proliferating healthy cells.</b></i>

And yet, it was relatively simple to find defective lymphocytes in the autism population.  Why?  One reason this might be possible is that there is an ongoing process that is causing problems, as opposed to maternally inherited mtDNA problems.  One suspect might be increased oxidative stress.  We've got lots of reasons to suspect this is the case in autism, near a dozen studies finding biomarkers of increased oxidative stress in that population.  And, we <i>also</i> have good evidence that as oxidative stress increases, so too do problems with mitochondria.  

For example, this paper was referenced in Giulivi, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14753755" rel="nofollow">Oxidative stress-related alteration of the copy number of mitochondrial DNA in human leukocytes</a> found that as indices of oxidative stress increased, so too did the copy number of mtDNA.  

<i>Three oxidative indices including the incidence of 4,977 bp deletion of mtDNA (P = 0.016) and 8-OHdG content in leukocytes (P = 0.003) and TBARS in plasma (P = 0.001) were all positively correlated with the copy number of mtDNA in leukocytes. Taken these findings together, we suggest that the copy number of mtDNA in leukocytes is affected by oxidative stress in blood circulation elicited by the alteration of plasma antioxidants/prooxidants and oxidative damage to DNA</i>

This type of finding correlates nicely with the autism paper and the breadth of autism / oxidative stress papers we've already seen.  

We also have a ton of recent evidence of the same thing in other cognitive problems, for example, schizophrenia and bi-polar.  Here is a review paper: <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20833242" rel="nofollow">Mitochondrial dysfunction and pathology in bipolar disorder and schizophrenia</a> (there are many, many others)

<i>Bipolar disorder (BPD) and schizophrenia (SZ) are severe psychiatric illnesses with a combined prevalence of 4%. A disturbance of energy metabolism is frequently observed in these disorders. Several pieces of evidence point to an underlying dysfunction of mitochondria: (i) decreased mitochondrial respiration; (ii) changes in mitochondrial morphology; (iii) increases in mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) polymorphisms and in levels of mtDNA mutations; (iv) downregulation of nuclear mRNA molecules and proteins involved in mitochondrial respiration; (v) decreased high-energy phosphates and decreased pH in the brain; and (vi) psychotic and affective symptoms, and cognitive decline in mitochondrial disorders</i>

The questions of <i>physiological</i> significance and / or causal direction are valid and require lots more study.  CNS and/or correlations to behavioral severity would be nice data points to gather.  But for Giulivi to be wrong, we need to start questioning wide swaths of research from areas outside of autism.  For all the hand wringing about the pilot nature of this study and the potential problems of using peripheral cells as proxies, what should have been surprising is if they'd <i>failed</i> to observe mitochondrial problems in autism. 

- pD
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							Hello friends - 

One of the biggest concerns with Giulivi was the usefulness of periphery cells as proxy views into the CNS.  Another paper was recently released that may help understand this:

<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21250997" rel="nofollow">Brain region-specific deficit in mitochondrial electron transport chain complexes in children with autism</a>

<i>Mitochondria play important roles in generation of free radicals, ATP formation, and in apoptosis. We studied the levels of mitochondrial electron transport chain (ETC) complexes, i.e., complexes I, II, III, IV, and V, in brain tissue samples from the cerebellum and the frontal, parietal, occipital, and temporal cortices of subjects with autism and age-matched control subjects. The subjects were divided into two groups according to their ages: Group A (children, ages 4-10 years) and Group B (adults, ages 14-39 years). In Group A, we observed significantly lower levels of complexes III and V in the cerebellum (p &lt; 0.05), of complex I in the frontal cortex (p &lt; 0.05), and of complexes II (p &lt; 0.01), III (p &lt; 0.01), and V (p &lt; 0.05) in the temporal cortex of children with autism as compared to age-matched control subjects, while none of the five ETC complexes was affected in the parietal and occipital cortices in subjects with autism. In the cerebellum and temporal cortex, no overlap was observed in the levels of these ETC complexes between subjects with autism and control subjects. In the frontal cortex of Group A, a lower level of ETC complexes was observed in a subset of autism cases, i.e., 60% (3/5) for complexes I, II, and V, and 40% (2/5) for complexes III and IV. A striking observation was that the levels of ETC complexes were similar in adult subjects with autism and control subjects (Group B). A significant increase in the levels of lipid hydroperoxides, an oxidative stress marker, was also observed in the cerebellum and temporal cortex in the children with autism. These results suggest that the expression of ETC complexes is decreased in the cerebellum and the frontal and temporal regions of the brain in children with autism, which may lead to abnormal energy metabolism and oxidative stress. The deficits observed in the levels of ETC complexes in children with autism may readjust to normal levels by adulthood.</i>

It's a small study, brain tissue is hard to come by, but still there are some interesting findings here; particularly the spatial component and deteriorating effect of age.  

Food for thought.  

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