Dear Doctor Rashid Buttar,
I understand that you sell an autism cure called TD-DPMS (Trans Dermal DPMS). As the parent of an autistic child I’m very curious about this product and how it helps autistics.
I’m led to believe that TD-DPMS is not FDA approved and that David Kirby (author: Evidence of Harm) reports that:
one manufacturer of it told compounding pharmacists not to make up transdermal patches of the stuff because some kids had had bad reactions with rashes and even bleeding and scarring.
Is this true? Is this bad reaction the reason you decided to turn to making TD-DPMS a cream instead of a patch? How does this affect the effectiveness of the product? As I’m sure you know being a Toxicologist, Chelation agents need to absorb a certain amount of the product in order to even begin to be effective. Where are the studies I can get hold of to see the rates of absorption for myself?
In fact, this brings me neatly onto a related matter. Such an important scientist as yourself must surely have peers flocking to review your work. As such an august scientist you are no doubt aware of the most basic scientific precept of subjecting your scientific work for review so that others may critically appraise your work and replicate it. I was surprised therefore to discover that a search of http://www.pubmed.gov – the site that lists all scientific articles in peer-reviewed scientific literature – and found nothing when searching for ‘Rashid Buttar’. Did you submit your thesis under a pseudonym perhaps? I’m positive this must be an oversight and that the safety and efficacy of a product that you regularly use on children has been regularly tested and re-tested by both yourself and your peers as to do otherwise is tantamount to admitting one is afraid to submit one’s work for peer review – I’m certain that can’t be the case for you! The commenter below must surely be mistaken?
To be listed in PubMed, you have to have published scientific articles in the peer-reviewed scientific literature. It’s just that simple. Apparently Dr. Buttar couldn’t be bothered to submit his work to real scientific journals. It’s hard to be taken seriously as a researcher or scientist if you aren’t published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Certainly, I don’t take him seriously. In Buttar’s own words, he doesn’t know how much of the stuff is going in to the kid or how long it stays there.
Moving on, I was heartened to read in a PDF of yours that:
In a study due to be released by the winter of 2004, conclusive data was accumulated regarding the efficacy of a specifically formulated transdermally applied combination of DMPS conjugated with a number of peptides, called TD-DMPS
Although I was unable to find a copy of any report containing any data – conclusive or otherwise – and I was concerned to note that its now fully 6 months after your stated deadline (trouble with Secretary’s?), I feel sure that once this report is subjected to the rigours of scientific peer review in a scientific journal will fully vindicate the use of your TD-DPMS. I look forward particularly to seeing data on the long term effects of chelation on children and the incontrovertible proof that Chelation cures autism in all cases. Could you provide a definitive date of publication and details of which Medical Journal it will be appearing in please.
By the way, I know your cream is specifically geared towards kids as your remarks here make that clear:
Our success has been all under the age of nine, nine or under. Now since then, when I presented to Congress I told them that I didn’t think this would be effective for older children because the older children would use it, I didn’t see — they got better, they started talking, but they’re not in my book considered normal. They can read, but they’ll never do much more than flip hamburgers for a living, that type of thing.
In fact, it was after reading this that I decided to contact you. Anyone with such an obvious empathy and deep understanding of autism and autistics is just the sort of person I’d like involved in my daughters treatment. Its also good to see how concerned you are with treating non-verbal autistics as a matter of choice. Such selfless dedication can only be lauded in this day and age and lets face it – those autistics who can talk aren’t probably such an inconvenience to their parents and possibly don’t look quite as heart-wrenching in your parents videos. Its OK – I’m fully aware of the need to be marketable and nothing pulls at the heart strings as much as a child trapped in the ‘abyss of autism’ as one person recently called it.
It was a bit puzzling though. I know of several autistic adults who were diagnosed as low functioning in childhood who later grew up and became reclassified as high functioning. How could that happen do you think? Possibly a naturally occurring ‘hot spring’ of TD-DPMS they fell into? A kind of ‘Old faithful’ of Chelation? I mean, they claim they just ‘developed’ as they grew up but that can’t be right can it? People don’t just develop with age do they? Especially kids?
I was also interested to see that you test for high levels of Mercury by using hair analysis. The reason I was interested in this is that the AMA say that:
The AMA opposes chemical analysis of the hair as a determinant of the need for medical therapy and supports informing the American public and appropriate governmental agencies of this unproven practice and its potential for health care fraud.
and that
A recent 2-year study of students exposed to fumes from metal welding found that hair analysis did not consistently reflect blood levels of 11 heavy metals.
So now I was confused. On one hand I had the AMA and their 2 year peer reviewed study and on the other I had you. Now don’t get me wrong – I’m *sure* you’re really really late close to releasing your data for scientific review but you’ll forgive me if I entertained a moment of doubt. I mean, these guys seem to really know their stuff:
Hair mercury levels are not an accurate indicator of mercury exposure. Hair testing has never been standardized to provide meaningful information.
They then go on to list a whole load of reasons why not and then say:
Thus it should be obvious that analyzing hair for mercury is a waste of time and money and cannot be used to diagnose mercury poisoning. A competent practitioner would easily know this. It is fraudulent to use hair analysis to diagnose “toxic levels” of mercury (or any other heavy metal) or to assess nutritional status (and claim someone is “deficient” and prescribe or sell them supplements).
OK, so I was getting a little annoyed now. These guys were calling you a fraud! I mean here they were with their reams and reams of scientifically validated evidence and there you were with your cream and they had the temerity to call you a fraudulant quack! The cheek of some people!
And talking of cheek, I read that:
Dr. Buttar is the Vice-Chairman of the American Board of Clinical Metal Toxicology and holds a position of Visiting Scientist at North Carolina State University
And yet when I visited the NCSU website I couldn’t find any mention of you – don’t worry though, I emailed the site and asked them to confirm your status so no doubt they’ll be rectifying this error soon. Actually, now that I think about it it was a few days ago I mailed them and I haven’t had a response yet. Hmmm. Odd.
And the American Board of Medical Specialties – whats wrong with those guys? They say:
The American Board of Medical Specialties does not recognize the American Board of Chelation Therapists, the American Board of Clinical Metal Toxicology, the American Board of Chelation Therapy, and the Board Of Medical Toxicology
The way they word it – you know, making Chelationists put this paragraph on consent forms and everything – makes it look like they don’t trust you and think you’re all a bunch of quacks. Man, you must long for the days when the medical community just closed ranks against all outsiders. People had proper respect for alternative medical practitioners then I bet.
On that note, I was fascinated to read some of your other patients testimonials. The guy who says that:
He (Dr Buttar) told me that most of his patients were much worse off than I and that God had Blessed me by giving me a wake up call and that he could enable my body to heal itself! Now that is the first time I have ever heard a Doctor say he could enable my body to heal cancer.
Impressive stuff! Is the cancer cure done with cream too? I actually telephoned NHSDirect to see if they’d heard of this treatment but I didn’t get a straight answer. Actually they sounded a bit weird. There was a lot of what sounded like giggling on the other end of the line. Not very professional is it?
I was also interested in your Anti-Aging stuff:
As an anti-aging specialist, I have read many of the popular health and longevity books. Very few have impressed me. For this reason, I probably never would have read Natural Hormonal Enhancement had my associate not insisted, after reading it himself. Admittedly, I picked-up the book with a negative predisposition, assuming it would be more of the same. I couldn’t
have been more wrong in that assumption. Natural Hormonal Enhancement is very well-written and well-researched and it contains information that even many of my peers don’t understand or don’t recognize. I highly recommend this book.
The book in question being described on that site as:
Finally a Rational Approach to Health and Fitness! The Revolutionary Breakthrough that Renders Conventional Exercise and Diet Programs Obsolete! Harness the Most Powerful Biological Force in the Universe – Your Own Hormones – to Reshape Your Body and Turn Back the Hands of Time on Aging!
Blimey! You’re one busy guy! Cures for autism, cancer and even old age! Now, I know many people would find this suspicious but not me. Anything that says they can ‘reshape my body’ without exercise or diet gets my vote! Can I still drink beer?
In closing then Dr Buttar, I’d really appreciate answers to the questions I’ve posed you here, particularly on the effectiveness of TD-DPMS. I have a fairly large website that gets around 1300 unique visitors a day (that’s a few hundred thousand hits) and I’ve posted a copy of this email up so all my visitors can read it – I’ll be happy to post any response you can give me up there too. I know lots and lots of people who are asking questions about you.
In closing, my apologies for leaving the HTML in place in this email – I couldn’t be bothered to do my job properly. I’m sure you know what I mean. Look forward to hearing from you very very soon.
Left Brain Right Brain 
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If anyone has a working email address for Dr Buttar, please could they mail him the link to this page?
http://www.tddmps.com/gettingtreatment/imposters.asp
I’m really upset that people are acting as Dr. Buttar imposters.
I mean, it’s way too confusing. Which is the real fraud and which is the fraud fraud?
drbuttarclinic@aol.com
that might work.
No guarrantees though.
Round of applause for Mr Leitch. Bravo. I suspect your enquiries will be met with a resounding silence, however…
Resent to the email Mitzy supplied (ta Mitzy :o) ) so lets see if I get a response. Its not bounced back yet anyway.
I presume you’ve seen Peter Watts’s extremely black-humored Power Point short story about a quack treatment for autism gone terribly wrong, entitled “Vampire Domestication.” Your note to “Dr. Buttar” made me think of it.
Mr. Leitch.
Your letters are well written, but not well referenced.
You appear to treat the content of quackwatch as gospel.
I’m sure you have researched the players behind quackwatch and the national council against health fraud.
I’m sure you are familiar with Tim Bolen and his battles with the quackbusters. http://www.quackpotwatch.org/WisconsinWar/who_are_these_so.htm
Mr. Bolen might be a fire brand, but he is thorough in his research and advocacy.
You make many valid points in your writing, but in my opinion, it lacks some credibility when you site the quackbusters as the medical authority.
Other than that, your letter to Dr. Buttar was awesome.
Keep up the good work.
Tim Bolen is a bizarre man, and appears to be quite the fraud himself. He was hired to do press releases and such for one of the worst quacks on the planet, Hulda Clark, no relation to Lujene, as far as I know.
quackwatch’s record is impeccable.
Anyway, this is about Buttar and his quackery.
ta to you, too, Kevin. (:
Mr Random,
You’re correct that I checked out the people behind Quackwatch. You may also note that Quackwatch was merely a convenient single location from which to gain all the quotes from. The quotes themselves still came from the AMA etc. Do you question their capability also?
As far as Tim Bolen goes, anyone who writes PR copy for Hulda ‘The Zapper’ Clark is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
Tim Bolen is Hulda Clark’s attack dog. Given that Hulda Clark is the single biggest quack that I know of, to me that relegates Mr. Bolen to utter irrelevance as far as a source of sound medical reasoning.
Nice article in the New York Times today regarding the debate over mercury poisioning and autism, and another seemingly sketchy doctor that has parents lining up behind him.
Excellent letter. Keep up the good work for your daughter’s, and scores like her, sake.
Courtney
Hi. Thanks for all the info on Dr. Buttar. I have been researching chelation after Robert Kennedy Jr’s article on the government’s coverup on mercury and vaccine’s. I respect RFK, Jr a great deal and feel he is a trustworthy source.
Have any of you been onto the ewg.org website??? They talk about the inability of autistic children to detoxify themselves based on the findings of Dr. Jill James. She feels that a low glutathione level found in most autistic children shows that autistic kids can’t defend themselves against environmental toxins–this includes thimerisol.
All of this is soooooo very confusing to begin with and add RFK, Jr’s expose saying that the govt not only knew about thimerisol but actively covered it up…it makes it very difficult to know who has our children’s better interests at heart and who does not!!!
Anyone have any ideas???
We are taking our 3 1/2 year old to an environmental doctor in July for the first time because of the RFK interview on Scarbourough Country.
Jennifer, has your child’s pediatrician referred you to this “environmental” doctor?
It is okay to respect RFK, jr as a LAWYER… but not as a health care professional nor as a science journalist. His article is seriously flawed and has been accused of using “selective quoting” to change what actually happened at the referred conference. Please check out http://oracknows.blogspot.com/ and http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/ for reviews of the article (the latter from a guy who read the entire report that RFK, jr took selected quotes from).
In my humble opinion you time and money would be better spent on getting your child good neurodevelopmental therapy from a licensed speech/language pathologist (SLP, see http://www.asha.org ) and/or an occupational/physical therapist (OT/PT, see http://www.aota.org ) . There is also the Federally mandated “Childfind” from the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) from your local school district to get services for your child (call your local school district, since it is summer it may take a while for them to get back to you).
My 16 year old son had seizures as an infant… this may or may not be the reason for his severe speech disability. I know of another 16 year old with the same disability, but his was due to meningitis from the Hib infection he almost died from (there was no Hib vaccine in 1988). My son could not speak when he was three years old… but he does now. The absolutely only thing he has ever been treated with was speech therapy and a very good special education program starting when he was three years old.
Over the years I have seen lots of different “theories” and “therapies” get thrown about… though nothing as bizarre as the “Buttar Cream”, hmmm, except cranial sacral therapy (a kind of homeopathic head massage). Lots of it is pure nonsense.
Save your money… call your school district and have your child’s pediatrician refer you to a good SLP and OT/PT.
Added note: For any parent with a child who has speech and language issues, I highly recommend they read _Childhood Speech, Language and Listening Disorders, What Every Parent Should Know_ by Patricia McAleer Hamaguchi
Wow that was Sarcastic to the extreme…
I’d rather give that creme a try vs. listen
to the thousands of lazy doctors that say
my child will never come out of his autism
symptoms.
I’m sorry, I was not trying to be sarcastic. My son is not autistic (severe speech disorder which may or may not be related to a seizure disorder). He has only been seen by two doctors. The first one was the family practitioner who refered him to an SLP (speech language pathologist) much earlier than what was often the case then (this was BEFORE Thomas Sowell’s silly book about “late talking children”), and the second one was a neurologist who basically wrote a “prescription” for the speech therapy.
Early intervention is often the best way to help kids. Unfortunately most parents must pay for neurodevelopmental therapy on their own. But it has been shown to work (did you look up http://www.asha.or or http://www.aota.org yet?).
Do you have any scientific evidence that the “Buttar Cream” actually does anything, much less is actually absormed into the skin? That question could also be applied to other worthless things that parents are often asked to pay for to help their children. Stuff like cranial sacral therapy (a kind of homeopathic head massage), funky oils, auditory integrated training or various supplements.
What is worth it to you?
The work that can actually be indexed in http://www.pubmed.gov — or the ravings of a guy who will sell you his special cream? (and he also cures lots of other ailments too!) Okay, that last bit was sarcastic.
I think William meant me HN ;o)
You’re right it was sarcastic. It was meant to be. I’m also sure you would rather give the cream a try than listen to Doctors. I don’t pretend to understand *why* you feel that way, but I have no doubt that you feel it.
HN, According to your post, In my humble opinion you feel that my time and money would be better spent on getting my child good neurodevelopmental therapy from a licensed speech/language pathologist (SLP, see http://www.asha.org ) and/or an occupational/physical therapist (OT/PT, see http://www.aota.org ) . Well my son has been receiving aggresive ABA therapy including speech, occupational, and phyiscal theapy for the last 2 years, and with very little improvement. He has been following a “DAN Doctor” protocol for the last 18 months with very little improvement. He has been on the gfcf diet for about 2 years and very little improvement. He has been on TD-DMPS for 2 weeks now and he is coming alive. Is he talking, writing, or doing multiplication? No, but he is constantly babling new sounds. He is for the first time ever recognizing our facial expressions. If we smiled at him over the past 2 years or tried to get him to laugh with a silly face or a quirky body movement in conjuction with a funny sound he would almost never react and if he did he would yell “Dah” in a very irrated way.
Since Td-DMPS started 2 weeks ago not only does he react to what I just previously described but his eye contact is so good I can do it from across the room and get a smile or a hardy laugh out of him. He recently started to show emotion if I raise my voice, and from out of nowhere he will just sit down next to his 7 year old sister and put his hands on the sides of her face and gently kiss her. Well … the simple fact is that it is not from out of nowhere … it is from the TD-DMPS!
Then you wrote:
“Do you have any scientific evidence that the “Buttar Cream†actually does anything, much less is actually absormed into the skin? That question could also be applied to other worthless things that parents are often asked to pay for to help their children. Stuff like cranial sacral therapy (a kind of homeopathic head massage), funky oils, auditory integrated training or various supplements.”
“What is worth it to you?”
What is worth to Me??? I can’t put a price tag on it! Can you?
In my opinon, all your doing with all that therapy that you suggest … is putting a bandaid on your child’s real problem, which is most likely “Heavy Metal Toxicity”! The therapists had my son screaming at the top of his lungs nearly everday saying “touch door”, and he would then touch the door and they would praise him, and then they would say “touch door” and then he would touch the door and then they would praise him, and then they would say “touch door” and then he would have a big melt down. In my opinion, that is a normal response to being asked to do the same thing over and over again after you have gotten it right, not to mention that “touch door” is not exactly useful in everyday life situations, say like understanding facial expressions as I previously mentioned.
In my opinon, by attacking this problem with just therapy, and supplements and not by chelation to remove the Mercury and the other heavy metals is giving your child nothing more than a bandaid …you have left your child in a lonely austic world that keeps him isolated from his family and loved ones.
What do you and the other Dr. Buttar bashers here have to contibute to this problem besides trying to tear down something you know very little about first hand? Have you ever met Dr. Buttar or heard him speak? Kevin Leitch or whoever was the author of “A Letter to Dr. Rashid Buttar Chelationist” certainly hasn’t or just choses to take Dr. Buttar out of context. The original author to the Buttar hit piece said that Dr. Buttar said the following:
“Our success has been all under the age of nine, nine or under. Now since then, when I presented to Congress I told them that I didn’t think this would be effective for older children because the older children would use it, I didn’t see — they got better, they started talking, but they’re not in my book considered normal. They can read, but they’ll never do much more than flip hamburgers for a living, that type of thing”.
That was taken out of context and if you go to the link below you can see for yourself.
http://www.autismmedia.org/media/buttar5.wmv
If you go to the link above you will see that the very next thing that Dr. Buttar says is ” But now I am finding that actually we have a couple kids, we have 3 kids over the age of a 11 and they are all having very rapid response”. You lied, you took him out of context, you lose all creditability and others here consistently link or quote government agencies or link to government agencies or you qoute AMA or link to those mainstream medical sites and quackery whatevers! Those are the, in my opinion, the true Quacks! The Quacks that deny the obvious while an entire generation of our greatest minds waist away do to “Heavy Metal Toxicity” and not Autism because according to me and Dr. Buttar their is no such thing as Autism, it is a very simple problem and it is “Heavy Metal Toxicity” or the body’s inability to detoxify. Why should I trust any mainstream medical organization like AMA or JAMA or government agencies like the CDC or the NIH?
In my opinon, if all those government or private organizations you constantly qoute or link to, were bought and paid for along time ago, and if they instead protected our children from this pharmaceutcal lobbied/government induced hell that 1 out of 166 of our brightest minds have been afflicted with, we would not be typing here but, we would be spending time with our future, and the future is in the minds of these extremely bright children that can not detoxify or eliminate the most toxic substance know to man, and that is Mercury.
Do you see the comparison in the the link below between Mercury poisoning and and what we call “autism”?
http://www.momsagainstmercury.org/psa.htm
If you don’t see it now…. you probably never will l!!!!!
Sincerely, Kevin Champagne
Syracuse, NY.
Kevin – you’ve misunderstood my reference to Buttars ‘hamburger flippers’. Go back and read it again.
If you want to treat your child with chelaton therapy thats entirely your choice. Don’t think though that just because you use it, that that means it works. It doesn’t. Buttar is a quack unable to pass muster on even the most basic science. His TD DPMS has never even been tested for safety under scientific conditions. How do you know what the long term side effects are? Chelation has been linked to organ failure and death before.
By blindly accepting the words of a quack you are putting your child in potential danger. Would you rather have an autistic child or a dead child?
HN – Your the quack! You say that chelation has been linked to organ failure and death before? What about Mercury and heavy metals being linked to cancer and heart failure? If we leave the Mercury in, it is definitely going to have long term damage.
His TD-TMPS has never been tested for safety under scientific conditions? Was Thimerasol, was dental Amalgam?
Mercury is one of the most toxic elements on earth. It is linked to many of the most degenerative and horrible diseases known to man. It is unfortunate that these diseases are virtually all iatrogenic – diseases caused by inappropriate medical / dental treatment.
Mercury is one of the deadliest toxins known to man. Its toxicity may well prove to be the most invasive and widespread disease in the history of mankind. Mercury poisoning causes many common medical and mental problems.
Should we leave the toxic Mercury in and wait for 10 years of “scientific conditions” to tell me what I know now, and that is to get rid of the Mercury, get it out of the body and by the safest means possible, and that is through TD-DMPS.
I am not blindly excepting the words of a “quack” as you put it.
Your the Quack!
Can you read Kevin? *I* made that reply – not HN.
If Mercury will ‘definitely’ cause long term damage then why hasn’t everyone in the last 60 years had cancer and heart failure? Come on man – engage your brain a little.
“I am not blindly excepting the words of a “quack†as you put it.”
Yeah, you are. If you treat someone with something thats never once been tested in any rigorous scientific way then you are blindly accepting whatever happens to you as a result.
Kev- I can read. I missed that it was your reply and not HN.
CAUSES OF DEATH, USA, 2002 FORMAL NAME INFORMAL NAME % ALL DEATHS
(1) Diseases of the heart heart attack (mainly) 28.5%
(2) Malignant neoplasms cancer 22.8%
(3) Cerebrovascular disease stroke 6.7%
(4) Chronic lower respiratory disease emphysema, chronic bronchitis 5.1%
(5) Unintentional injuries accidents 4.4%
(6) Diabetes mellitus diabetes 3.0%
(7) Influenza and pneumonia flu & pneumonia 2.7%
(8) Alzheimer’s Disease Alzheimer’s senility 2.4%
(9) Nephritis and Nephrosis kidney disease 1.7%
(10) Septicemia systemic infection 1.4%
(11) Intentional self-harm suicide 1.3%
(12) Chronic Liver/Cirrhosis liver disease 1.1%
(13) Essential Hypertension high blood pressure 0.8%
(14) Assault homicide 0.7%
(15) All other causes other 17.4%
[Source: National Vital Statistics Report, Volume 53, Number 5 (October 2004)
Nearly 60 percent died from cancer and heart attacks in 2002 and nearly 24 percent died from suicide, homocide, or accidents. or other causes. I have to assume that 60 percent of the people that died due to sucicide, accidents, and homicide would have died from heart failure or cancer.
So you asked ” If Mercury will ‘definitely’ cause long term damage then why hasn’t everyone in the last 60 years had cancer and heart failure? Come on man – engage your brain a little”.
Come on man, don’t you think that nearly everyone has died from cancer or heart failure?
Whats your personal definition of the word ‘defiitely’? As in:
” If we leave the Mercury in, it is definitely going to have long term damage.”
Your definition of ‘definitely’ seems more like ‘maybe’ to me. If you’d shown 100% for heart attack and cancer then I’d be happy to use words like ‘definitely’. I’ll ask you again – engage your brain a little.
Mercury can be linked to most of the other causes of death on that list from 2002.
Is it 100percent?
Definitely not!
But I bet it’s close.
CAUSES OF DEATH, USA, 2002 FORMAL NAME INFORMAL NAME % ALL DEATHS
(1) Diseases of the heart heart attack (mainly) 28.5%
(2) Malignant neoplasms cancer 22.8%
(3) Cerebrovascular disease stroke 6.7%
(4) Chronic lower respiratory disease emphysema, chronic bronchitis 5.1%
(5) Unintentional injuries accidents 4.4%
(6) Diabetes mellitus diabetes 3.0%
(7) Influenza and pneumonia flu & pneumonia 2.7%
(8) Alzheimer’s Disease Alzheimer’s senility 2.4%
(9) Nephritis and Nephrosis kidney disease 1.7%
(10) Septicemia systemic infection 1.4%
(11) Intentional self-harm suicide 1.3%
(12) Chronic Liver/Cirrhosis liver disease 1.1%
(13) Essential Hypertension high blood pressure 0.8%
(14) Assault homicide 0.7%
(15) All other causes other 17.4%
[Source: National Vital Statistics Report, Volume 53, Number 5 (October 2
This shows the relationship between mercury and diabetes. That takes care of number 6 on the list of death causes from 2002 and I am definitely 3 percent closer to 100 percent.
Mercury is a known endocrine disruptor, and a new field of medicine is beginning to form and look at the effects of low dose mercury exposure on the endocrine system. With the tremendous increase in diabetes, being called an epidemic, and the increase in exposure to mercury, it seems that mercury could also be implicated as a cause of diabetes and some MD’s are aware of the actions of mercury on the insulin in our bodies and on the insulin receptor sites. Mercury has an affinity for sulphur bonds, which are present in all molecules of insulin and in the receptor site cells. Mercury renders insulin ineffective.
“Your a quack”? Since this was said multiple times it cannot be a simple typo. Your expressive communication skills seem to be on par with your understanding of basic science and medicine (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592400876/ ).
Please tell us exactly what scientific rigor the TD-DMPS has gone through to show it is effective. Anecdotes do not count. References to http://www.pubmed.gov would be appropriate.
How do you know that it was not the real therapy working with the normal development of your child? With my son it was also a LONG hard road. At times there seemed to be now progress, and then spurts of speech. Without anything other than good neurodevelopmental therapy and a good educational placement.
Whatever! Quack! Quack! Quack!
We stopped therapy 2 weeks ago when we started TD-DMPS that is how I know that it is not “the real therapy working”. We plan on starting therapy again in the fall after a few months of chelation.
It sounds like your son is doing well with therapy and good educational placement but what are you doing about the mercury?
Oh and I am sorry about my communication skills, I didn’t know that this was going to be graded!
You’re a Quack!
Is that better!
So let me sum up Kevin. In order to bolster your argument that mercury causes autism you are arguing that mercury is responsible for over 60% of all deaths since the introduction of mercury in vaccines?
If so, then I have a rather nice bridge you might be interested in buying…
Hello, Kevin Champagne, I am glad to hear that your child is happy and engaged. Maybe it’s the TD-DMPS, or maybe he’s just really relieved to be out of that maddening ABA program that he was in for two years, screaming almost every day, until you started the DMPS cream. If I were in his shoes, I’d take the Buttar Cream over several hours of weekly torture any time.
Thank you, Anne!
Not only is he happy and engaged since ending ABA and starting TD-DMPS, my son had a solid stool today for the first time in at least a year. I know, that’s more than you needed to know. Too much information! I think that may be due to us cutting back on all the supplements that we have been giving him for years, or it’s because the chelation is starting to put the fires out, or something else. I can’t wait for his next movement to see if this was just a fluke.
Kevin Champagne
No Kev, Let me sum it up.
You’re a sarcastic Shithead!!!
How are my communication skills now HN?
You told me in a recent reply to go back and read it again? No, you’re the one that needs to go back and read it again!
I think you could use some form of chelation yourself!
I ask again. Have you ever met Dr.Buttar or heard him speak? What do you really know about him? I think you should go see him speak at a conference and try to debate him.
The global autism rights movement? Are you kidding me?
The global autism rights movement?
Now I see where you’re coming from.
You’re not looking for a cure for autism because you’ve invested so much time in acceptance and rights for those on the spectrum.
There is a better way, but you can’t see it because you have your head buried in “www.pubmed.gov” and “basic science”.
The answer is’nt there!
So you don’t believe autistics have rights Kevin? Interesting.
By the way – I totally agee with you on ABA. There’s no way Megan would have that.
I’m not looking for a cure because I don’t believe autism requires one. It certainly doesn’t require a bunch of quacks trying to make money from it.
I did actually email this to ‘Dr’ Buttar. Strangely, he’s yet to reply. I have had some interesting feedback from the College he claims to be a visiting lecturer at though. I’ll post that at some point.
Oh and by the way – keep a civil tongue in your head and act like a grown up when your on my site. More abusive langauge gets you a ban.
I talked to Dr. Buttar last week at an autism conference in Mount Laurel, New Jersey and he told me that he had over 500 emails that he had yet to answer from doctors. I think he said that he has only enough time to answer about 8 a day and that if he didn’t recognize the sender he just deletes it, so there is a good chance yours got deleted or he saw the tone of your email and considered this debate a waste of his time, as I am starting to see.
I would like to see the interesting feedback that you claim to have received from the college.
Well, next time you see him be sure to let him know this thread exists. I’m sure he’ll be keen to prove the effectiveness and safety of his treatment.
The feedback?
I forwarded your email to faculty members at both UNC and NCSU. I do not know of this person but hopefully someone else will.
Lesley H. Hubbard
Biomedical Engineering Program Assistant
That was on the 27th June. So far no other faculty members have indicated they know Buttar at all.
Kevin: thought you might be interested in this.
Kevin C, the “global autism rights movement” is where I am coming from, too.
I believe in acceptance and rights. I’m also not looking for a cure for my son. I feel lucky to have him. I feel no need to deny his autism or get rid of it. I do not think the world would be a better place without autistic people in it. I do not believe that autistic people are inferior to others. I believe their ideas about how they would like to be treated should be heard and acted on.
It comes down to how people want to live their lives. I don’t understand why you are so angry at those who are working to improve things for autistic people. When your child gets older, as mine is, and if he remains autistic, as mine does, wouldn’t you want acceptance and rights for him, and the possibility of living a satisfying life? When he grows up, wouldn’t you want others to recognize him as equal to them and to take his opinions seriously? Wouldn’t you want employers to be willing to hire him? Wouldn’t you want his friends to understand his different social needs? Do you really think it’s wise to bet the farm on a cure, and not prepare for the reality of your child living as an autistic person?
For every autism treatment you will find people who swear by it, saying they have seen children recover. As adamant as you are about chelation, there are others equally adamant about ABA, or homeopathy, or supplements, or special diets, or anything else that’s out there. You will always find somebody who will say, why can’t you just open your eyes, my child has been cured! He talks! He’s happy! He just has some social issues, that’s all! Kevin C, I believe that these kids are probably still autistic, and that they are just as precious, and deserve the same acceptance and rights, as everyone.
Kevin,
Why are you so angry??? If you are not looking for a cure for your autistic child, that is your decision. Why are you so passionately critical of parents of autistic children who are looking for a cure or at least an improvement in their child’s condition and the doctors, both alternative and mainstream medicine, who are helping that happen??????
Autistic/mercury/metal poisoned children are in pain. They need help. In my opinion, it is cruel to not at least try to help them.
Mainstream medicine has no treatment for autism. So parents wanting to help their children have to go the alternative route. They also have to find a medical doctor
willing to work with them. Ideally, mainstream medicine and alternative medicine should work together. Unfortunately, that doesn’t happen often.
In an article that you link to, it says that taxpayers are footing the medical bill for quack autism cures (in bottom line words). Not so!! Most insurance does not cover alternative treatments and welfare/medicare doesn’t either. The parents are footing the bills themselves in most cases.
As far as those “quacks” are concerned, I know that without them, my grandson would not be well on his way to being cured. AND THAT IS PROOF ENOUGH FOR ME!!!!
No amount of “science” or “medical research” will ever convince me that my grandson’s parents were wrong in pursuing a cure against the mainstream medical advice of “just accept your son’s condition”.
Likewise, my heart goes out to your child and every mercury poisoned child whose parents chose to FOLLOW that same advice.
I am so sad for you, Kevin, and for your child.
God Bless,
Carole Andersen
HN,
Apparently you are missing the fact that many prescription medicines are being and have been pulled from the shelves AFTER FDA approval because they are/were causing deaths.
Was testing done on these drugs? Were testing results tampered with or just ignored? Testing does not guarantee safety. In fact, it would be difficult if not impossible to find an approved drug that has no side effects. Prescription drugs have side affects, many of them serious and some deadly.
Why are they approved? Follow the money. Closely.
My heart also goes out to you and your child.
God bless,
Carole Andersen
The point is that most medications have actually been tested for effectiveness. Unfortunately sometimes things go wrong… like the interaction of the antihistamine Seldane with antibiotics. BUT… Seldane was an effective antihistamine,it was shown to be before put on the market (it worked for me). After a serious interactions was found, it was taken off the market.
Now this page of comments is about the effectiveness of Rashid Buttar’s TD-DMPS cream. Where is it been independently replicated and documented that this cream:
1) Is actually absorbed into the skin?
2) Actually chelates mercury or any heavy metal?
3) Has caused accelerated neurodevelopmental progress in children?
Unfortunately statements made in Congress cannot be accepted as evidence. Papers that are published in journals that are index in http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?DB=pubmed are acceptable (not letters or editorials). This index system manages to filter most of the self-published papers, but it still contains some scientifically questionable journals (there are a few dedicated to homeopathy).
Also, if you go to the above website and put in the drug name that you are interested in you will find what studies and testing have been done. So that should answer your question “Was testing done on these drugs? Were testing results tampered with or just ignored?”. For instance, I put in the word “seldane” and got over 2000 hits (papers, reviews, letters, editorials). So if you ANY question on a medication that one place to start.
Though for MORE useful information on medications it is easier and quicker to use http://www.medlineplus.gov . That will give a set of choices that include extended topics including “Drug Information”. I used this when my son was prescribed atenolol for his hypertrophic cardiomyopathy:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a684031.html … you will see that it mentions which side affects can be serious (oops, I just remembered, I have to pick up his refill at the pharmacy). By the way “atenolol” gives over 5500 hits on the Library of Medicine index search.
Bravo Carole Andersen!!!
Hey Kev, do you have a Bill of Rights for The Autism Movement?
I think that the first ammendment in your Bill of Rights should be, freedom of speech!
Now that’s sarcasm!
Kevin Leitch, did you really think that I would be interested in that link you sent me to the autism diva and the bias hit piece that someone else did on Dr. Buttar?
I’m not opposed to rights for kids with autism, in fact I think one of thier first rights should be, the right to have a mommy and daddy that will go to the end of the earth to find a treatment that will give them a typical life!
You are extemely vain when you wonder why Dr. Buttar doesn’t answer your offensive letter and then you tell me to make sure that I tell Dr. Buttar that this thread exsists the next time I talk to him?
Yea, ok. That’ll be right at the top of my list of concerns the next time I get to talk to the doctor that is treating my son for his serious medical problem.
Well Kev, the next time you talk to the Queen of England, can you ask her to answer my email?
If Dr. Rashid Buttar is such a quack and if he’s ripping people off with his TD-DMPS or as you call it “Buttar Cream”, then where are they? I have searched and searched and I don’t find anyone!
What planet are you living on?
Carole,
Parents of autistics are prime candidates for every snake oil salesman that comes along because they feel that a cure is the only thing that can ‘help’ their child. Buttar exploits this natural tendency to want to help but that all he does – exploit. If his cream could pass muster then I’d gladly apologise to him but the fact is that he’s obviously afraid to submit it for scientific review because he knows it’l fail.
If your grandson was in pain you should know that pain is not a symptom of nor indicator of autism. The diagnostic criteria is readily available on several sites – pain forms no part of it. My daughter isn’t and never has been in pain leading from being autistic. Likewise saying that pain is caused by autism is equally false.
So, my daughter is autistic. She always will be and there’s nothing I’d wish to change about that fact. There are however, a few areas that require intervention such as communication etc but intervening here doesn’t alter the fact of her autistic nature. As such what is there to cure? A stim? A need to sing loudly? Forgive me if I don’t se this as a priority.
If I were you Carole I’d be giving serious thought to the legitimacy of your grandson’s diagnosis. The symptoms of mercury poisoning and autism are nothing alike. Yuor granson sounds misdiagnosed to me.
There is, unfortunately, a financial burden on this whole issue. Single issue extremists like SafeMinds and Generation Rescue are trying to:
“It’s all part of the political plan of the autism-mercury cabal – have autism declared, by an Act of Congress, to be caused by mercury. It isn’t science, but it might just work.”
And when/if that happens research money into proper, legitimate areas will dry up and disappear – thats what makes me angry. It should make you angry to but I suspect it’ll make you happy instead.
“Kevin Leitch, did you really think that I would be interested in that link you sent me to the autism diva and the bias hit piece that someone else did on Dr. Buttar?”
No, but I like to get confirmation you only see what you want to see. Thanks.
“I’m not opposed to rights for kids with autism, in fact I think one of thier first rights should be, the right to have a mommy and daddy that will go to the end of the earth to find a treatment that will give them a typical life!”
Really? What about autistic adults – you know, what autistic children grow up to become? Do they have any rights in your world? I strongly suggest you talk to a few adult autistics and read a few things they’ve written before you make carpet generalisations about autistics. You could try:
http://www.autistics.org
http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com
Read some of the papers written by autistics or (gasp!) talk to some of them. You might even get the mind of yours to open up to the possibility that autism is not the hellish existence you seem to think it is.
“You are extemely vain when you wonder why Dr. Buttar doesn’t answer your offensive letter and then you tell me to make sure that I tell Dr. Buttar that this thread exsists the next time I talk to him?”
Well, I’ve tried mailing the geezer – he hasn’t answered (I wonder why) so I though – never miss an opportunity. You obviously know him quite well.
“Hey Kev, do you have a Bill of Rights for The Autism Movement? I think that the first ammendment in your Bill of Rights should be, freedom of speech! Now that’s sarcasm!”
It is? Maybe you can explain it to me as I don’t know what you’re talking about.
“If Dr. Rashid Buttar is such a quack and if he’s ripping people off with his TD-DMPS or as you call it “Buttar Creamâ€, then where are they? I have searched and searched and I don’t find anyone!”
I have no idea. Whats your point?
Kev, your response to Carol was very, very weak and so is your search for what’s really ailing your daughter! You don’t know Buttar and your claims of a snake oil saleman have absolutley no basis whatsoever!
This is about Dr.Buttar right?
Where are all the people that have been robbed by Dr. Buttar?
When you talk about financial burden, you are so far off in left field that it’s truely sad!
You seem to see Autism as a big troubling financial issue. When I go back and read previous posts from you, you seem to bring up cost a lot. I don’t put a price tag on it and I think it’s sad that you do.
The finacial burden of austitic children that can be cured now, doesn’t even pale in comparison to the financial burden that the children of irresponsible parents that are seeking acceptance, instead of cure, will inflict on future generations of working families that will pay for autistic adults job programs and subsidies.
Where are all the people that have been robbed by Dr. Buttar?
Where are they?
Come on Kev, come up with some off the wall comment or sarcasm, because you can’t come up with legitamate people that have been ripped of by Dr. Buttar.
Send me a link to a legitamate site that is full of people that were robbed by Dr. Buttar.
Key word here is legitimate!
Whats my point?
I think the point of this “thread” as you call it is to expose Dr. Buttar for this snake oil salesman that is getting rich off autism but really is’nt curing anyone or anything. So my point is, if that’s true, find the people that have been ripped off to help reinforce your argument!!! That’s my point!
What is yours??????????
My Point:
Since Dr. Buttar has now prescribed TD-DMPS over 50,000 times, there must be hundreds of people that are suing him and claiming they have been riped off, right?
My point is, that if he’s such a snake oil salesman and that this TD-DMPS doesn’t work than there would have to be hundreds of blogs or threads or whatevers calling for his head on a platter.
Where are they?
Kevin: You are verging off into being uncivil again. I’ll remind you once more – my place, my rules. Play nice or get banned.
Your point about no-one complaining about Buttar is bizarre. I’ve never claimed anyone _who uses his cream_ has complained about him. What I’m claiming is that his ‘cure’ doesn’t work. If either he or you can prove it does then be my guest. You’re constructing a strawman argument.
“your response to Carol was very, very weak and so is your search for what’s really ailing your daughter! You don’t know Buttar and your claims of a snake oil saleman have absolutley no basis whatsoever!”
Well firstly I’m not searching for whatevers ailing my daughter as there’s nothing ailing her at the moment. She has a bit of a cold a week or two ago but she’s not ill.
I’ll gladly concede I don’t know Buttar – so what? Are you sugessting that because I don’t know him I can’t criticise him? My claims that he’s a snake oil salesman are entirely legitimate. Your continued insistence that they’re not prove nothing. If you think I’m wrong then refute my points.
“You seem to see Autism as a big troubling financial issue. When I go back and read previous posts from you, you seem to bring up cost a lot. I don’t put a price tag on it and I think it’s sad that you do.”
I have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. Please show me where I refer to autism as a financial burden.
“The finacial burden of austitic children that can be cured now, doesn’t even pale in comparison to the financial burden that the children of irresponsible parents that are seeking acceptance, instead of cure, will inflict on future generations of working families that will pay for autistic adults job programs and subsidies.”
Ahhh, I see. Did you know that arguments just like yours were used to excuse and prolong treatments to ‘cure’ homosexuality once upon a time? I also find it amusing how you tell me how sad it is that I’ve apparently made a financial issue out of autism and then you go on to tell me how irresponsible I am for not realising the financial impact of not ‘curing’ my daughter. Come on Kevin, get your story straight.
Keiv Leitch wrote, “I’ll remind you once more – my place, my rules. Play nice or get banned”.
I’m banning myself. This was a complete waste of my time.
Your dead wrong about Dr. Buttar and the children of the parents that listen to you are the ones that are really being banned! Banned from a typical life that is available through what you label as quackery.
They will not benefit from mommys with hairy armpits and daddys with ponytails that like to get all wrapped up in movements.
Pray For Peace!
Banned from a typical life!!!! Oh no!!!!!
Spare me your emotional crap. Your kids Kevin are destined to grow up. Still autistic and getting the message from you that who they are is bad. They will not benefit from Daddy’s who have nothing substantive betwen their ears.
They will grow up into the type of adult that you mock as getting ‘wrapped up in movements’. I wonder what you’ll think of them when they do? I’d urge you once more Kevin – go talk to some adult autistics and see what they think. And then remember that all children grow up.
Regarding ripped off by Dr Buttar, price tag, etc.
Dear Kevin Champagne,
If your son is getting better god bless you. I have been ripped off by Dr Buttar. My ex wife doesn’t think so but then all the other miracle cures are why I am divorced now and see my son who I love dearly regardless of his problems once every two weeks. I have been through the gluten free diets, the supplements, the chelation, the hair tests, the stool tests and money would not have been an object if there were any left.
Dr Buttar believed in this alternative medicine back in 1997 just when he opened his new practice and bought his big horse farm. Lo and behold his son born soon after is autistic by his own testimony. Miraculously cured by him with buttar cream and now plays chess at college level.
Kev, it is snake oil and you are hurting a lot of people. My ex lives with her step brother who is fitting the bill. My ex is at another doctor today trying to re up on the buttar cream and hopes to see Buttar himself one day.
My ex is the kind that gets addicted to the home shopping network.
There is nothing I would love better for you, Buttar, or my ex to prove me wrong. Frankly I think the guy is a total fraud and sadly enough there are thousands like him out there.
Good luck and I am sincerely happy for whatever success you are having.
By the way Erik has been on the tmps or whatever the drops are, for months. Before that he took oral chelation and it is going on two years. I can only pray no damage has been done to his digestive system.
Brian
Kevin Leitch,
It is a cop out to say that my grandson’s diagnosis was incorrect. Instead of facing the fact that autism/mercury poisoning can be cured or at least helped, the “acceptors” just say that the child never had autism in the first place.
In my grandson’s case, there is proof. My daughter, Tami, took movies of Gavin documenting his condition and improvement over the years. Gavin will be 7 next month.
The symptoms of mercury poisoning and autism are the same. Look them up for yourself. Gavin was diagnosed as autistic at 19 months and PDD-NOS, at the age of 2. He lost speech, stimmed, rocked, toe walked, had foul smelling diarrhea, extreme hearing sensitivities, skin rashes, and the list goes on. As you should know, these are the symptoms of most autistic children. So how can you say that autism is NOT
PAINFUL???!!!???
You are not recognizing that autistic children stim, cry, meltdown, etc, because they ARE in pain!!
Autistic children have a hard time in restaurants, stores, etc. mainly because of the noise factor. If someone were to blow a whistle in your ear, would you feel pain? (Have your child listen to classical music, preferably Mozart. It helps. Gavin no longer has to wear ear plugs.) When you have indigestion and/or diarrhea, does your tummy hurt?? When you are trying to convey something to someone and do not know how, would that frustrate you?? Frustration is a form of pain. If you still believe that your child is not in pain, then you are not putting yourself in your daughter’s shoes. The fact that your daughter stims tells me that she is hurting. Stimming helps her to cope with her pain.
And I believe that you are in pain and this website/blog (I am not very computer literate.) is YOUR coping mechanism. I also think that if you tried to help heal your daughter’s pain, that you would help your own pain. Of course, that would entail getting rid of your closed mind and tunnel vision. Just think about it. What if one or a combination of these off the wall treatments were to help your daughter communicate, etc. better? Somewhere in the back of your mind at some point in your life it will come back to you and you will wonder what if it would have worked for her? I can’t believe that any parent if given the choice would choose autism over normalcy for their child. Search your soul. Is the only reason you are now choosing that because you have been brainwashed to believe everything that the medical community says is gospel. Did you happen to read that report about the 200,000 people a year that die because of misdiagnosis and incorrect drug doses mediated out by the mainstream medical community??? And you are totally trusting their recommendation as to how to treat your daughter’s autism-just accept it!! Wake up!! They do NOT have your family’s best interest at heart! So YOU have to!! Remember these words: What if it does help my daughter? They will come back to haunt you if you do nothing. But of course that is your right. Just as it is the right of other parents to aggressively seek a cure for their sons and daughters!
As far as Dr. Buttar (yes, I have met him and I have heard him speak at the Autism One Conference) is concerned, I applaud him, along with all of the other pioneers of out of the mainstream medicine that are trying to help those that the medical community has abandoned. You see, for some of these kids, snake oil works! Let’s face it. Any treatment at all for autistic children is experimental at this point in time. It will take years, maybe decades, before mainstream medicine comes up with a treatment if they do at all. (They will if they see money in it. Snake oil legitimized!!)
Parents that are chelating their child are also carefully monitoring that child via regular lab testing. In addition to treating and monitoring their child they have to contend with mainstream doctors, drug companies, FDA, NIH, CDC, and other governmental agencies because they are bucking the system. These parents are heroes because they are doing what mainstream medicine said could not be done. And they are doing it despite all of the flak and criticism that is being heaped upon them and the “quacks” that are helping them. I am so very proud of each and every one of them!!!
It doesn’t take a genius to understand that injecting mercury, a neurotoxin, into the bodies of our infants and children is not very smart. (However, it is profitable!!!! Snake oil legitimized!!!) Combining that neurotoxin with aluminum and formaldehyde in that same injection is worse. Why don’t you ask for the ingredient list of the vaccinations that your daughter has received and then tell me just who is practicing dangerous medicine??? Sidebar: Have you given a thought as to why adult onset diabetes is showing up in our children also at epidemic rates???? Hint: Follow the money.
Don’t criticize those that are part of the solution unless you have a better one. Just accepting is not a solution.
I just also have to say that it is incredible to me that there are parents out there that are aware that treatments exist that may cure or at least make their child’s life better and they choose to do nothing. Absolutely amazing!!
Again, God bless your daughter.
Carole Andersen
California