Here’s a statement by William Thompson that they won’t be quoting

3 Sep

For those who know the story of William Thompson–he’s the CDC researcher who decided it was a good idea to coach vaccine-antagonist advocate Brian Hooker in how to scare people from using vaccines–you know that he’s become a favorite sock puppet for the people who claim vaccines cause autism. I’ve seen many discussions where people say Thompson said this, or Thompson said that–all without any evidence.

Here’s a quote from Robert Kennedy Jr. in the book

“Dr. Thompsom told Dr. Hooker that whenever the CDC finds an adverse effect from vaccines, the agency supervisors assemble CDC scientists in a room and order them to massage the data until they have devised a gimmick for eliminating the unwanted signal.”

One does wonder if Kennedy actually read the transcripts. Because that isn’t in there anywhere. I don’t expect accuracy from Kennedy. Politics. Misguided politics. That’s what I expect. And he came through with his introduction to the book.

One more claim made by Mr. Hooker’s team is that the CDC abandoned their initial research plan (which, now that we’ve seen the plan, we know isn’t true) and that they did so in order to dilute an effect they saw in the African American Cohort. And this is all somehow backed up by William Thompson’s statements in the phone conversations.

Well, now we have transcripts of some of the calls. And here we can see Brian Hooker trying to get Thompson to say that and Thompson, well, not saying it.

Dr. Hooker: And then you basically deviated from that particular plan in order to reduce the statistical significance that you saw in the African American Cohort.

Dr. Thompson: Well, we, um, we didn’t report findings that, um…All I will say is we didn’t report those findings. I can tell you what the other coauthors will say.

Recall that Brian Hooker knew he was recording. He wanted this on tape. And that it appears Thompson didn’t know he was being recorded, but he still wouldn’t say what Hooker wanted him to say.

As I said–don’t expect this exchange to be widely discussed. It doesn’t fit the story they want to tell.

edit to add–here’s a screenshot of this exchange (click to enlarge):
Thompson---all I will say

By Matt Carey

17 Responses to “Here’s a statement by William Thompson that they won’t be quoting”

  1. James Lind at 14:03 #

    How about the part where Thompson says thimerasol does not cause severe cases of autism, the kind of autism Hooker’s son has?

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) at 19:46 #

      I’ve commented on that elsewhere. And will likely here. I’m not finished pointing out the problematic statements (problematic for Mr. Hooker) in those conversations.

      • Roger Kulp at 16:43 #

        Sullivan,could you provide a link to where you state this.or perhaps the direct quote from Dr. Thompson?It seems to me many of the parents who claim their autistic child was “vaccine damaged” have children who are severely autistic.

        As for James Lind’s comment down below,you are not the first to question,or wonder about,Kennedy Jr.’s competency as a lawyer.

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) at 17:25 #

        Here’s a screenshot of the part of the book with that quote.

        Thompson--all I will say...

  2. Brian Deer at 18:41 #

    Kennedy just makes stuff up as he goes along. I’ve been quite surprised by it – and somewhat fearful for people who employ him as a lawyer.

    One thing I noticed recently was him stating as fact that Dan Burton’s grandson was vaccine damaged. Like, Kennedy was there, had the medical records, plausible biological mechanism and temporal link, all in his pocket. The guy hasn’t got a clue – or simply doesn’t care – about the nature of evidence.

    He also evidently doesn’t know the difference between a falsehood and a lie. All in all, not someone you’d want on your side if the judge isn’t drunk.

    • shay at 19:11 #

      Why would he actually work as an attorney? He’s a Kennedy, FCOL.

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) at 19:43 #

      He’s an attorney and he’s from a family of politicians. Not caring about the nature of evidence is in his DNA. Being more obviously wrong than most attorneys and politicians may explain why he’s not in politics. At least in part.

  3. James Lind at 03:50 #

    Thanks for all your work on this

    • James Lind at 03:51 #

      Kennedy, the lawyer, does not understand the difference between adverse event and adverse reaction. He cannot understand a basic package insert. It is mind boggling.

  4. Brian Deer at 18:28 #

    The Hooker/Thompson exchange basically puts a hole in the entire fraud allegation. He’s directly invited to make a claim of fraud and chooses not to. This is consistent with his public statement through his lawyer, where he says words to the effect that reasonable people can disagree.

    The whole Wakefield “fraud” claim is essentially a projection of his own situation. It’s a kind of “nah nah nah nah-nah, you said I’m a fraudster, so you’re a fraudster”. He does it all the time, and has been for years.

    What’s extraordinary is they simply can’t find anyone of integrity and caliber to go along with him. We thought Kennedy would be some kind of intelligent, honest, man, with an understanding of public affairs and process. But he turned out to be a lying crank as well.

    When will it ever end?

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) at 18:53 #

      the word “fraud” appears 15 times in the book. Never in the conversations. Just in the stuff added by Kevin Barry.

  5. Step at 23:42 #

    “I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.”
    Which part indicates Intelectual honesty? Tell me there is nothing to hide?
    Whar about the SPIDER grouo complaing of political interference at the CDC?

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) at 00:05 #

      Here are the documents

      What in there in incriminating?

      Funny how Wakefield and his team wouldn’t make them public. And edited the parts they did make public–to the point of changing the text. So I put your question back at you: tell me Wakefield has nothing to hide. He did a lot of hiding of information.

      He says he believes the final study protocol was not followed. Tell me what that means. Tell me what part of the protocol was not followed. And then we can go through the documents and discuss if his claim has merit.

      I’m always here, so I’ll wait. You have read the documents, haven’t you? Or do you just go around posting on the internet without actually doing research?


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