Autism and Scientology again

9 Mar

Awhile ago, I wrote a post the detailed the disturbing links between the DAN! movement and scientology. It transpired that scientology – being a movement that is big on non psychiatric modes of treatments is a good fit for DAN! adherents. Both value detoxification for a range of things and it seems Scientologists have not been slow to ingratiate themselves into the DAN! movement. So far, I’ve identified three Scientologists who are also DAN! Doctors. One of them was involved in the death of a parent of a schizophrenic man in 2002.

One of the darlings of the autism/vaccine movement is Julia Berle who’s son, Baxter, was used in a Generation Rescue advert. Ms Berle is a frequent poster to various autism/vaccine groups. Her signature reads;

Julia, mom to Baxter, recovered in 2005, Founding Parent of Generation Rescue

As mum to a recovered child, Ms Berle’s opinion is sought in many places and she never stints from dispensing the advice she got far and wide.

Baxter Berle was diagnosed (at least partly it seems) by Scientologists. If I may quote myself:

Baxter Berle attended a school called ‘The Learning Castle’ which is an alleged elementary ‘feeder’ school for the Renaissance Academy with which it shares a campus (there seem to be about seven separate units on campus all feeding the Renaissance Academy). Here’s a little bit of information about the Director of the Renaissance Academy, Ann Hazen;

Renaissance Academy is truly bringing education back to life through the use of a full academic program, athletics, the Arts, a warm and caring staff coupled with the brilliant study and educational philosophies of humanitarian L. Ron Hubbard.

Yup, they’re Scientologists too.

So Scientologists had a big say in the diagnosis of Baxter Berle. What about his recovery? I was recently forwarded this email by a member of a autism/vaccine group Ms Berle is also a member of:

— begins —

Re: Opinion of Dr. Nancy Mullan ?
Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:25 pm
— In autisminterventionsocal@yahoogroups.com,
“djberle” wrote:

Hey there,

We used Dr. Mullan to recover Baxter. I like that she stays cutting edge on top of all new topics as it relates to autism. She attends numerous conferences to stay current. I also highly respect her availability to parents and compassion to “work with you” on
all aspects (to include financial to some degree). She cares deeply for our children and wants to help them….Our experience with her was very positive. I refer her often to other local. parents. I also refer Dr. Hirani as she helped us as well.

— ends —

So Dr Mullan recovered Baxter. Dr Mullan is also a Scientologist. She is the Medical Director of the Scientology owned Safe Harbor organisation. She also used Dr Hinari who studied under Julian Whittaker – another doctor with Scientology connections.

Here we have a situation where Scientologists have (maybe) diagnosed, treated and recovered a boy. This boy was subsequently turned into one of the poster children for successful recovery by Generation Rescue (of whom Ms Berle describes herself as a founding member).

Maybe I’m just a cynic but this reeks of ‘set up’ to me.

97 Responses to “Autism and Scientology again”

  1. kristina March 9, 2007 at 16:20 #

    I think if one looks more closely at Generation Rescue rhetoric some more links might appear.

  2. anonimouse March 9, 2007 at 16:42 #

    Kev,

    You mean the fact he links his posts to the main Scientology website didn’t give you a clue? 😉 It’s only a guess, but I wouldn’t be shocked if Scientology (which has a LOT of wealthy converts) is playing a much bigger role in the autism-mercury debate than we might have originally thought.

  3. Friend in California March 9, 2007 at 17:58 #

    Anonimouse –
    How does that work? I’d like to check that out. Is there something on GR that is clickable and will lead to a scientology site?

  4. notmercury March 9, 2007 at 19:07 #

    When JB comments here, usually as Mercury Dad, his name includes a link to Scientology.com

    He’s joking of course.

  5. anonimouse March 9, 2007 at 19:08 #

    Yeah, sure he’s joking.

    And I’m the King Of Chelation.

  6. Kev March 9, 2007 at 19:09 #

    I always assumed he _was_ joking. I think this is going to need a bit more digging.

  7. livsparents March 9, 2007 at 21:10 #

    Yea I thought that was a thumb-nose too…
    If you think about it though, scientology has a special aversion to anything psychological. That’s why John Travolta has never come out publicly about their autistic son..they deny the existence of any issues.
    It also goes to explain the vehemence that some go to when they’re defending their ‘poisoned’ rather than autistic child…
    Bill

  8. b sharp March 9, 2007 at 23:35 #

    You have no idea how much this scares me. CAN! has already merged with Autism Speaks, I don’t want to even think of the impact if they absorb this group too.

  9. OlderWiser March 10, 2007 at 15:38 #

    I’ve always thought (and have often said) that the Toxic Parents were a cult. Seems my perceptions may have been more strongly founded than I had initially believed.

  10. Tom March 10, 2007 at 16:08 #

    I noticed that Guidestar, the non-profit reporting Web Site, lists Generation Rescue as a 501(c)(3) charity. By law, such charities must file a form 990 or a 990ez to document their revenue and expenses. However, GR has not submitted either document.

    There are a few possibilities for this:

    1. The organization is faith-based.
    2. The organization is a subsidiary.
    3. The organization is non-compliant.
    4. The organization had an extension and there is a delay in posting the information.

    I look forward to reading their 990 if it becomes available. If it does not, then they could well be thetans. I wonder if E-meters work on the neurodiverse?

  11. Greg March 10, 2007 at 17:00 #

    I admitedly know nothing about Autism, but I’ve been a Scientologist for over 22 years. I have two happy children and a lovely wife, I own my own company and lead a blessed life.

    I really don’t understand you people. If Scientologists are contributing to the successful recovery of autistic children, you actually have a *problem* with that?

    Many Scientologists do what they can in their area of specialization to help people and improve things in society. There’s the environmentalist guy who founded Earth Organization (www.earthorg.org), there’s the Concerned Businessmen of America, there’s many many social improvement programs fueled by or financed by Scientologists.

    The idea is to help.

    I personally was a volunteer during 9/11, was a volunteer in Indonesia after the ’05 tsunami and in Louisiana after Katrina. We handed out food and water, penicilin and medicine, and tended to the sick and the destitute. Do you people have a problem with that too?

    Scientology is not the boogaboo some Internet discontents have made it out to be. It is a worthwhile philosophy that helps people lead better lives and take responsibility for making things better.

    Get better informed.

    See http://www.volunteerministers.org
    See http://www.scientologymyths.info
    See http://www.liveandgrow.org

    best,
    Greg
    Scientologist and proud of it
    http://www.liveandgrow.org

  12. Kev March 10, 2007 at 17:25 #

    _”Scientology is not the boogaboo some Internet discontents have made it out to be. It is a worthwhile philosophy that helps people lead better lives and take responsibility for making things better.”_

    I disagree. I think it is exactly the kind of ‘boogaboo’ it is made out to be. I also think it is an appalling, self-centred philosophy that appreciates quackery and disregards science.

    To that end, I definitely have a problem with your ilk being anywhere near autistic people.

  13. Brian Deer March 10, 2007 at 17:32 #

    I got stopped by Scientologists the other day. These kids had one of their “machines” where you hold a metal can thing in each hand. The guy said it measured stress, and asked me to think of something that stressed me. I thought of elephants. The needle went up (while he was twisting a dial to one side). When he asked, and I told him, what I was thinking about, he said: “Do elephants make you feel stressed?” I said: “No.”

    So we did the same thing while I thought about sex. Same thing.

    Eventually, he said the machine didn’t work too well in the street.

  14. Interverbal March 10, 2007 at 17:41 #

    hello Greg,

    “I admitedly know nothing about Autism, but I’ve been a Scientologist for over 22 years.”

    That’s fair, I know little of Scientology, but a fair bit about DAN!.

    “I really don’t understand you people. If Scientologists are contributing to the successful recovery of autistic children, you actually have a problem with that?”

    DAN! which evidently some scientologists have taken to heart, tends to use methods which are not proven and are even considerably dangerous. That’s a problem.

    It is really not enough to have good intentions.

  15. Bartholomew Cubbins March 10, 2007 at 17:51 #

    Greg, this guy and those who have “recovered” and post their stories on his site disagree too.

    They make a pretty convincing argument.

    As for me, I’m pretty open minded: I think JK Rowling might be a god too.

  16. Kev March 10, 2007 at 18:15 #

    I’d like to remind anyone commenting that Scientologists are extremely litigious people who are pretty stop-at-nothing. Be careful to express opinions and present nothing as fact unless you are absolutely 100% sure.

  17. Lucas McCarty March 10, 2007 at 18:49 #

    Greg, seeing as you have admitted your knowledge of Autism is lacking perhaps it would have been better to make more careful comments.

    Do Scientologists want to ‘recover’ homosexual people too Greg? There are people who have sold cures for homosexuality and there are people who say they were cured of homosexuality. Homosexuality once occupied it’s own space in the Diagnostic Staticians Manual as a pathology, just as Autism currently does.

    There are many appropriate comparisons that can be drawn between homosexuality and Autism, often ridiculed based on a dodgy assumption that homosexuality isn’t a pathology because it’s a ‘lifestyle choice’, which itself is based on an assumption that homosexualy it synonymous with promiscuity. Homosexuals, like Autistics, are routinely ignored when they describe their experiences except when their views are agreeable to those wishing to ‘cure’ them.

    So please explain to me Greg, why would I as an Autistic person advocate my own demonisation, ostracism and exclusion from the rest of the human race unless I was to be made no longer Autistic; an event which all evidence says would require me to no longer exist and be replaced by someone else in this body?

  18. David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction) March 10, 2007 at 19:05 #

    That’s the way they make their money, Kevin.

  19. David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction) March 10, 2007 at 19:08 #

    “Eventually, he said the machine didn’t work too well in the street.”

    Nice one, Brian….

    So they use faulty equipment too.

  20. Clay March 11, 2007 at 01:39 #

    I attended a couple of Scientology meetings back in the 70’s. I don’t recall whatever is was I did that was against their rules, but I got banned for it. 😉

  21. AF March 11, 2007 at 03:06 #

    “I really don’t understand you people. If Scientologists are contributing to the successful recovery of autistic children, you actually have a problem with that?”

    Nope, Greg, apparently you don’t understand. Must have misunderstood a word somewhere. No one is objecting to Scientologists contributing to the successful recovery of autistic children. What they are objecting to is the possibility that Scientologists are falsely claiming to contribute to the successful recovery of autistic children.

    This isn’t far-fetched, either, if you are familiar with the history Scientology organizations have of distorting the truth to claim accomplishments they just don’t have. Take for instance the misrepresentation of the “Swedish study” — a study that purportedly “examined the long-term effects of the Narconon program for 61 drug abusers who graduated from Narconon Huddinge, a facility outside Stockholm. [The researcher] followed the graduates for four years after they completed the program.” Purportedly, “four years later 78.6 percent were drug free.”

    However, this account contains both severe misrepresentations and outright falsehoods. Namely:

    – The study did not follow 61 drug abusers who “graduated” from the program. The study followed 61 drug abusers who entered the program, but only 14 “graduated”; the rest dropped out before finishing.

    – The researcher did not follow the subjects — 61 or 14 — for four years. The researcher asked Narconon staff to interview those who graduated from the program. This throws real doubt on the claim that Gerdman was an “independent” researcher, since he didn’t do his research independently but had it done by the people who would have benefitted most from tampering with or fudging the data.

    – Purportedly “four years later 78.6 percent were drug free”. This is of course not 78.6 of the 61 who entered the program, only of the 14 who finished it (technically, only of 13 out of those 14, as the last could not be located for the follow-up interview.) But does that mean that if you are one of the 23% who get through the Narconon program, that you have a 78.6% chance of staying drug-free? No, not at all — half of those who graduated from the Narconon program went back to drugs within a year. They were only counted as “drug-free” because they claimed that they hadn’t used drugs within the month previous to the interview.

    So yes, it is indeed nice that Scientologists want to find effective solutions to the problems facing our world, and kudos to them for that. But just because they want to find effective solutions, just because they say they have found effective solutions, doesn’t mean they actually have. I don’t see why that’s so hard to understand.

  22. Lucas McCarty March 11, 2007 at 15:28 #

    Actually AF, I did mention my objection to ‘recovery’ above. But I still follow your point and would like to elaborate that false claims of cures are synonymous with inaccurate and plain wrong information about Autism and Autistic people; which in turn harms all Autistic people.

  23. AF March 12, 2007 at 01:45 #

    Lucas, thank you for correcting me. I’m sorry that I missed your post on my first reading.

  24. Brian March 12, 2007 at 06:09 #

    I came across this post… looking for something else… how about a simple exercise for all the Scientology naysayers… do a search and replace, and put the word “communist” in for every instance of Scientology/ist. Look at yourselves. You’re no better then the right wing, biggots of the 1950’s. You’ve got a new cause. It’s no longer the once dreaded “communism” it’s now something else. Who cares? The kid recovered. What if a faith healer touched the kid and recovered? People recover in and outside the scope of medicine. The more i see posts like this against Scientology (esp. from those with little knowledge on it), the more Scientology appeals to me.

  25. Kev March 12, 2007 at 06:36 #

    Then feel free to go join Brian. If being bigoted equates to not wanting scientologists and their dangerous quackery anywhere near vulnerable children, then feel free to call me a bigot.

  26. Ms. Clark March 12, 2007 at 07:19 #

    I’d be worried if a faith healer claimed that he diagnosed a person with cancer, and then cured him of cancer. Or if there were two associated faith healers and one diagnosed the cancer (through prayer or whatever) and the other cured it (by touching the “cancer” victim). I’d be very suspicious of that, never mind that just hearing someone say that they *had* cancer (or that their child had autism) and that *now they don’t* doesn’t mean either that the person actually had cancer before or that he’s actually free of it now.

    I had a friend who was deep into alternative med who convinced herself she had cancer when she didn’t. Then she treated herself with a very dangerous “cancer cure” that eats holes through people’s skin and underlying tissue… it’s very painful. She was convinced that the dissolving tissue that was appearing stuck to the bandages was cancer being pulled from her body. My friend is otherwise pretty smart and practical, but she was sure this was the thing to do. Neither did she have cancer, nor was she curing it. (No scientologists were involved to my knowledge.)

    There have been people who were “cured” by faith healers who didn’t turn out to be cured at all, they stop their regular treatments and some have died for that reason. And then there are those shills who are placed in the audience who aren’t crippled but who walk to the front of the revival tent with crutches and when healed throw the crutches down and praise the lord, etc.

  27. anonimouse March 12, 2007 at 13:30 #

    Here’s an idea.

    If Scientology has the answer to curing kids with autism, they should use their substantial financial resources (no claims of povery there) to perform the necessary clinical research of their protocol to prove that it does indeed do what it claims. I can’t imagine any of the kind human beings involved with Scientology would want these secrets hidden from the mainstream public if they truly were successful.

  28. anonimouse March 12, 2007 at 13:31 #

    I’d like to remind anyone commenting that Scientologists are extremely litigious people who are pretty stop-at-nothing.

    That description fits a LOT of people in the autism-mercury crowd, really.

  29. Greg March 12, 2007 at 15:55 #

    I can´t respond to all the people that came after me for simply expressing my opinion.

    But I do want to respond to Lucas McCarthy, in regards to homosexuality.

    I have several friends who are gay. Some of them are actually also practicing Scientologists. I don’t know whatever gives anyone the idea that Scientology is out to “cure” homosexuality. I assure you this is not the case.

    There is a document you should look at:

    Click to access scientology_and_the_gay_community.pdf

    best,
    Greg
    Scientologist and proud of it
    [can we dispense with all the extra links please Greg?]

  30. Nobody March 12, 2007 at 17:19 #

    There is a court case that disagrees with you, Greg. And Greg, you already know about Michael Pattinson from the comments of another Scientology critical blog you popped in on, so you can drop the act.

    This fellow by the name of Michael Pattinson was told that the church would cure his homosexuality and used John Travolta as an example of curing it.

    Here is the excerpt from the issue of “The Star” that had something about the story.

    *******” TRAVOLTA DRAGGED INTO BIZARRE GAY LAWSUIT – by Martin Gould

    John Travolta has been dragged into court battle between a gay artist and the powerful Church of Scientology. Michael Pattison says he turned to the sect to “cure” his homosexuality after it used 44-year old “Face Off” star Travolta to illustrate how the church could turn gay people straight. Now Pattison is suing the church and 22 of its members for fraud, claiming he spent 25 years and a half a million dollars trying to deal with his own homosexuality – but is still gay.

    His lawyer, Graham Berry, tells STAR: “Michael was in a Scientology center in Clearwater, Florida with Travolta and they used him as an example of someone who could be cured of what they referred to as is “ruin”. However, after 25 years and $500,000, Michael is still gay”.

    Extract from an article in The Star, August 18 1998 issue, page 5″ **********

    http://www.lermanet2.com/michaelpattinson/ – Here is Michael Pattinson’s personal story in Scientology and the lies he was told about “curing” him

  31. Nobody March 12, 2007 at 17:25 #

    Here are some snippits of Scientology’s stance on homosexuality that they will not tell to the public right outfront.

    “Homosexuals don’t practice love; 1.1s can’t. Their relationships consist of: 1) brief, sordid and impersonal meetings or 2) longer arrangements punctuated by dramatic tirades, discords, jealousies and frequent infidelity. It could hardly be otherwise since the tone is made up of suspicion and hate, producing a darling sweetness interspersed with petty peevishness. Their “love” turns to deep contempt eventually.” – Scientologist Ruth Minshull

    ***

    Hubbard’s 1951 book Handbook for Preclears likewise classified homosexuality as “about 1.1 on the tone scale”, along with “general promiscuity”. He set out what he saw as the cause of homosexuality: a mental “aberration”, with the result that “an individual aberrated enough about sex will do strange things to be a cause or an effect. He will substitute punishment for sex. He will pervert others. Homosexuality comes from this manifestation and from the manifestation of life continuation for others.” The “aberration” was caused by a child trying to “continue the life” of a dominant parent of the opposite sex.

    I don’t think Hubbard was too friendly with the concept of homosexuality…

  32. MercuryDad March 13, 2007 at 03:04 #

    Kev:

    You are a complete prick for bringing other kids into this while trying to protect your own daughter from scrutiny. And, I’m not a Scientologist.

    Prick.

    MercuryDad

  33. J March 13, 2007 at 03:16 #

    Guest Blogger on CDDS

    MercuryDad, I am puzzled then. Why do you have your homepage set to http://www.scientology.org in that thread? What do you find interesting about Scientology to make it as your set homepage for all your comments there if you are not a Scientologist? I am just curious.

  34. All Your Base Are Belong to Imus March 13, 2007 at 04:25 #

    Be nicer to the Mercury Dad
    Autism Speaks hurts his feelings real bad
    That recovery could have been staged
    As easily as BJ is enraged
    Would all of this make Imus sad?

  35. julia berle March 13, 2007 at 05:31 #

    For clarity:
    “Julia Berle sends her kids to a Scientology run school, and gets her kids seen by scientologist doctors, and has her disabled son declared normal by a scientologist doctor. She also continued to treat him with stuff like low-dose naltrexone AFTER she declared him cured, interstingly.

    Julia Berle might be a scientologist herself.”

    I know nothing of scientology. i do not disparage it nor know anything about it. It would really be interesting if you guys actually had FACTS to support anything you wrote.
    What is a Scientologist exactly and what do they believe?
    Actually don’t care. I just find it comical that I am in the midst of this and it had N O T H I N G to do with my kid and his complete recovery from autism.

  36. J March 13, 2007 at 05:55 #

    Did Baxter attend Renaissance Academy?

  37. Mother May I March 13, 2007 at 07:36 #

    A first person account of being abused in $ci, it mentions Quentin Hubbard
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/pignotti/#contact
    video of Baxter shows him at the Learning Castle a Renaissance Academy feeder school on the same property. It seems odd that Julia Berle would know nothing about $ci. There’s plenty about it on the web.

  38. J March 13, 2007 at 08:38 #

    Maybe she doesn’t know that the Renaissance Academy is Scientology run? (unless they lied to her)

  39. Ms. Clark March 13, 2007 at 09:10 #

    J,
    Julia Berle never heard of scientology before, or somehing like that. So it doesn’t seem likely that she asked about who runs Renaissance academy, cuz she never heard of ’em. (??) The Renaissance Academy website sells L Ron Hubbar books and quotes him on a couple of pages by name, and that school has the same street address as her sons’ school (at least they were there when Stan Kurtz video’d them). You’d think the kids would get some exposure to his teachings at that school, but maybe not.

    julia posted to a DAN! list in November 2005 that Baxter was still getting lots of supplements and she was talking about trying a prescription drug days before he was to appear on the full page ad as being cured. I guess it was just his health that was still pretty unstable but he was cured of autism.

  40. anonimouse March 13, 2007 at 13:28 #

    Julia,

    You are telling me that you weren’t smart enough to know with all of the research you’ve done that the school you sent your child to and the doctor who “recovered” your child were both involved with Scientology?

    Sorry, that doesn’t pass the smell test at all.

  41. julia berle March 13, 2007 at 14:18 #

    Kevin, I noticed that my post is no where to be found. Let’s try again shall we? Why would you take it off unless some of the truths in there offended you? Let’s try again…..

    Kevin,
    How brilliant that you referred to me as a “darling.” That’s pretty
    much all you got right in your blog about myself and my son. First
    off the two doctors you referred to in your post treated Baxter AFTER
    he was diagnosed from 5 other sources (3 developmental pediatricians,
    1 regional Center and 1 school district….I know nada of their
    religious affiliations. For any of them). The doctors you mentioned
    were not involved at all in his diagnosis at all. I merely went to
    them for treatment. When my son’s diarrhea was bright yellow and
    running down his leg 35x/day and he was screaming 21 hrs/day and
    rolling car wheels the other 3 hrs I did not ask, nor care (still
    don’t) about their religious ties. They wanted to help my son’s
    health and they both facilitated in his healing.

    With regards to his school I can only assume you googled the name and
    came up with this other feeder school. ??? ??? Because you are
    completely incorrect. The Renaissance Academy or something? I have
    never heard of it and we are in no way associated with it. It
    astounds me that you get on this world wide platform and expound
    “truths” of which you have no knowledge.

    I am confused by your statement this is a “set up.” Set up for what?
    I can only guess you are further functioning under your afore
    mentioned misinformation. I respect that others don’t believe their
    ASD children to be toxic nor need chelation or any other biomedical
    intervention. I do understand that autism has many different
    definitions in our community and how one reacts to it is obviously
    individual. Healthcare is also a very private choice and in my case
    was made with a great deal of indepth-analysis, information and
    thought with my spouse. You may not agree with what we came up
    with….but it worked and really…honestly Scientology had nothing to
    do with it (Its very hard not to chuckle as I write that sentence!!) .

    I felt very sad and very alone at the time that Baxter was diagnosed
    and was very sick. I so wanted someone to reach out and offer a
    shoulder to cry on. because Ii WAS crying. I was sad. I was alone.
    And I was not crying because my kid was autistic…my kid was not
    different or quirky or unique. He was desperately desperately ill.
    That is why I was crying. If I had sat back and done nothing given
    his state it would have been within reason to call CPS on me.

    So, I offer support and Baxter’s story in case anyone could glean some
    hope or possibly something to help their child as well. Come meet him.
    He’s a cool kid. He has no
    supports/therapy of any kind, is working waaaay above grade level (2
    yrs), has tons of friends and just won the game ball (baseball) this
    past weekend. His first game. I wish you the best in your future
    with autism…with your daughter…wherever you want to put you
    energy. I respect it. I dont even ask that you respect mine. But it
    would be nice.
    —Julia
    Baxter’s mom
    Recovered in 2005
    http://www.childrenscornerschool.com/video/bax3.wmv

  42. julia berle March 13, 2007 at 14:22 #

    Bax has not attended nor will attend The Renaissance academy. The school he attends is not affiliated with it

  43. rookie March 13, 2007 at 15:47 #

    Did someone claim that Baxter did attend The Renaissance Academy?

    Baxter Berle attended a school called ‘The Learning Castle’ which is an elementary ‘feeder’ school for the Renaissance Academy with which it shares a campus (there seem to be about seven separate units on campus all feeding the Renaissance Academy).

    Did someone claim whatever school he attends now is affiliated with The Renaissance Academy?

    Just curious.

  44. anonimouse March 13, 2007 at 15:55 #

    So you’re saying he never attended “The Learning Castle”? Or if he did, that said school is NOT affiliated with Renaissance? I am confused because The Learning Castle shares a campus with Renaissance Academy, but is not listed as a Scientology school per se…

    But are you also suggesting that you have never used a doctor for the treatment of your son who works for and/or is significantly involved with Scientology?

  45. julia berle March 13, 2007 at 17:35 #

    Third times a charm?
    Kevin…why are you repeatedly deleting my post? I’ll try again. The third time. Did I mention this is the third time I’m trying to post and you keep deleting it?

    I asked about the school. The Renaissnace Academy. It is on the same street/block as Baxter’s school. It is not a feeder school. They are on the same block that is it. His school does not “feed” into it. Why would I investigate a school that my child does not and has no intention of attending.?

    Umm here we go again…here’s the post you keep deleting. why kevin….?
    ********
    Kevin,
    How brilliant that you referred to me as a “darling.” That’s pretty
    much all you got right in your blog about myself and my son. First
    off the two doctors you referred to in your post treated Baxter AFTER
    he was diagnosed from 5 other sources (3 developmental pediatricians,
    1 regional Center and 1 school district….I know nada of their
    religious affiliations. For any of them). The doctors you mentioned
    were not involved at all in his diagnosis at all. I merely went to
    them for treatment. When my son’s diarrhea was bright yellow and
    running down his leg 35x/day and he was screaming 21 hrs/day and
    rolling car wheels the other 3 hrs I did not ask, nor care (still
    don’t) about their religious ties. They wanted to help my son’s
    health and they both facilitated in his healing.

    With regards to his school I can only assume you googled the name and
    came up with this other feeder school. ??? ??? Because you are
    completely incorrect. The Renaissance Academy or something? I have
    never heard of it and we are in no way associated with it. It
    astounds me that you get on this world wide platform and expound
    “truths” of which you have no knowledge.

    I am confused by your statement this is a “set up.” Set up for what?
    I can only guess you are further functioning under your afore
    mentioned misinformation. I respect that others don’t believe their
    ASD children to be toxic nor need chelation or any other biomedical
    intervention. I do understand that autism has many different
    definitions in our community and how one reacts to it is obviously
    individual. Healthcare is also a very private choice and in my case
    was made with a great deal of indepth-analysis, information and
    thought with my spouse. You may not agree with what we came up
    with….but it worked and really…honestly Scientology had nothing to
    do with it (Its very hard not to chuckle as I write that sentence!!) .

    I felt very sad and very alone at the time that Baxter was diagnosed
    and was very sick. I so wanted someone to reach out and offer a
    shoulder to cry on. because Ii WAS crying. I was sad. I was alone.
    And I was not crying because my kid was autistic…my kid was not
    different or quirky or unique. He was desperately desperately ill.
    That is why I was crying. If I had sat back and done nothing given
    his state it would have been within reason to call CPS on me.

    So, I offer support and Baxter’s story in case anyone could glean some
    hope or possibly something to help their child as well. Come meet him.
    He’s a cool kid. He has no
    supports/therapy of any kind, is working waaaay above grade level (2
    yrs), has tons of friends and just won the game ball (baseball) this
    past weekend. His first game. I wish you the best in your future
    with autism…with your daughter…wherever you want to put you
    energy. I respect it. I dont even ask that you respect mine. But it
    would be nice.
    —Julia
    Baxter’s mom
    Recovered in 2005
    http://www.childrenscornerschool.com/video/bax3.wmv

  46. julia berle March 13, 2007 at 18:07 #

    INTERESTING. Its back there now. Twice even.

    Change of heart?

    I captured the screen each time with the time stamp…soooo interesting.

  47. anonimouse March 13, 2007 at 18:54 #

    I found that YouTube video a tad disturbing, really. A bunch of kids who are most likely still autistic (and certainly wouldn’t pass for “normal” in typical age-appropriate settings) being paraded around by the parents who breathlessly sing the praises of DAN and Rimland with (dare I say it again) almost cult-like overtones.

    And as mentioned above, it’s quite fascinating that parents have no problem touting their child as a “recovery” story, but when questions about the validity of said recovery are raised parents then want their child’s life to be private. It’s like the movie star who seeks publicity at every turn but demands privacy whenever something the least bit untowards happens to them.

  48. temp relief admin March 14, 2007 at 00:39 #

    Julia, I checked for posts caught in this blog’s spam filter. I found two of yours there and one from someone else that I released. There were also two spam ads there. The spam filter is somewhat unpredictable. It’s nothing personal against your comments.

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