Yes, it may be illegal to sell MMS

14 Jan

A few years ago a new “treatment” appeared in the alternative medical world: MMS or Miracle Mineral Solution. As just criticism came out on this treatment, the name has morphed. One can now find it called CD (chlorine dioxide) or CDS (chlorine dioxide solution) or even the “parasite protocol). It goes by many names and it’s a scam. It is a well marketed scam and it’s taken in a lot of smart people. If you haven’t heard of it before you may be wondering what it is. Essentially, it’s a bleach (sodium chlorite) which is supposed to be mixed with a weak acid to make another bleach (chlorine dioxide). There are some effective marketing materials posing as scientific talks that use the classic alt-med sales techniques: testimonials and science-like discussions. In the autism world, this means claiming that it makes autistic kids non-autistic. Usually they avoid the “c” word (cure) because that is a quick way to get noticed by the people who are supposed to protect us from such scams.

MMS is sold often with a wink and a nod as a water purification solution. Such appears to be the case with a team charged with defrauding regulators and the sale of MMS as a cure or treatment. Per the press release below, it seems that this U.S. based team was importing their materials from Canada. At some point they “smuggled sodium chlorite into the United States from Canada using fraudulent invoices to hide the true end use of the product. In these invoices, according to the indictment, they falsely claimed that the ingredients they were purchasing for MMS were to be used in wastewater treatment facilities.” Their website shows them selling 4 ounce bottles of the solution. It would take a lot of those bottles to supply a wastewater treatment facility.

Here’s a point I haven’t seen made about MMS. One can purchase the base material, sodium chlorite, for about 50 cents a pound. Alibaba shows the liquid selling for $100-300 per metric ton. (click to enlarge)

Alibaba Sodium Chlorite

But, let’s look at the website of this team selling the sodium chlorite solution. For only $20 you could get a 4-ounce bottle. That’s a savings of $5 off the regular price! Anyone want to do the calculations of how many 4-ounce bottles could be filled with a metric ton purchased for a few hundred dollars?

If one doesn’t want a ton shipped from China, Canada (where this team was sourcing their material) has sellers selling seven pound jars of the solid for $200. Not as big a profit margin as buying by the ton, but still a notable markup.

pgl

The “project green life” team point out that they are selling it as a water purification product only. If, by chance, you are planning on doing the “MMS protocol” they will provide you with information “for your safety and convenience”. And just in case, they have a one-stop shop in that they will sell you the second part of the MMS protocol, citric acid.

pgl2

Wink. Nod. It’s just a water purification product, right? Sold at a huge profit. And for a small additional fee, one could also get the second part of the MMS product.

Apparently after this one team had their production facility inspected by the FDA, they moved production on to the property of one of their team members. There’s a silicon valley legend about companies starting in garages. It’s one thing for making electronics or computers. It’s another thing when we are talking about something sold (even with the wink) for human consumption.

Here is the press release from the Justice Department about when the charges were made.

Louis Daniel Smith, 42, and Karis Delong, 38, both of Ashland, Ore., were charged with defrauding regulators and suppliers in a scheme to manufacture and sell industrial bleach as a cure for numerous illnesses, including arthritis, cancer, and the seasonal flu. Also charged were Chris Olson, 49, and Tammy Olson, 50, of Nine Mile Falls, Wash. A federal grand jury returned an indictment, unsealed yesterday, charging Smith, Delong and Tammy Olson with one count of conspiracy, four counts of interstate sales of misbranded drugs, and one count of smuggling. The grand jury charged Chris Olson with one count of conspiracy, one count of the interstate sale of a misbranded drug and one count of smuggling.

The indictment alleges that Smith and Delong operated a business called “Project GreenLife” (PGL) from 2004 to 2011. PGL provided various health products for sale over the internet. According to the indictment, Smith and Delong arranged the manufacture and sale of the “Miracle Mineral Supplement” (MMS), a mixture of Sodium Chlorite and water. Sodium chlorite is not meant for human consumption. Suppliers of the chemical include a warning sheet with the chemical that states that it is harmful if swallowed.

According to the indictment, PGL provided consumers directions to combine MMS with citric acid to create Chlorine Dioxide, and the instructions told consumers to drink this mixture to cure numerous illnesses. Chlorine Dioxide is a potent agent used to bleach textiles, among other industrial applications. In humans, Chlorine Dioxide is a severe respiratory and eye irritant that can cause nausea, diarrhea and dehydration.

As part of the scheme to manufacture MMS, the indictment alleges that Smith, Delong, and others smuggled sodium chlorite into the United States from Canada using fraudulent invoices to hide the true end use of the product. In these invoices, according to the indictment, they falsely claimed that the ingredients they were purchasing for MMS were to be used in wastewater treatment facilities.

According to the charging documents, Smith and Delong were the managing members of PGL Smith co-founded the company, and Delong frequently handled financial transactions for the company and recruited friends and family to participate in the business. The indictment alleges that Smith and Delong paid Tammy Olson to handle all customer inquiries regarding the product. It is alleged that Tammy Olson continued selling MMS on her own website after federal agents shut down the Project GreenLife website and production facilities.

The indictment also alleges that Smith and Delong paid Chris Olson to clandestinely manufacture MMS in a building on his property after regulators from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) inspected PGL’s original manufacture and shipping locations.

“The Department of Justice is committed to protecting the health and safety of people with cancer and other serious medical conditions,” said Stuart F. Delery, Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department’s Civil Division. “Our most vulnerable citizens need real medicine – not dangerous chemicals peddled by modern-day snake oil salesmen.”

Charges contained in the indictment are simply accusations, and not evidence of guilt. Evidence supporting the charges must be presented to a federal trial jury, whose duty it is to determine guilt or innocence.

The case was investigated by agents of the FDA’s Office of Criminal Investigations and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service. The case is being prosecuted by Christopher E. Parisi, a Trial Attorney at the Department of Justice’s Consumer Protection Branch in Washington, D.C.

The defendants have made a number of motions and at least one appears to be defending himself (filing pro se). Here’s an example of one such motion:

In his motion to strike for lack of standing, ECF No. 37, Mr. Smith disputes whether the “United States” and the “United States of America” are “legally one and the same.”

I’d want a real attorney if I were a part of this group, but that’s me.


By Matt Carey

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41 Responses to “Yes, it may be illegal to sell MMS”

  1. lizditz January 14, 2015 at 19:44 #

    There’s a blog and a Facebook group opposing MMS.

    Blog post:

    “Today, I wanted to show you some of the scary effects that people post about on the CD Autism page. This is one of the more terrifying aspects of this protocol because these people aren’t doctors, yet they advise each other that all of these awful sounding indicents are just normal detoxing issues and no real cause for concern. However, it could be of huge concern and given that these are autistic children, many wouldn’t even be able to communicate how they really feel. ”

    https://nomorebleach.wordpress.com/2015/01/10/are-there-really-no-side-effects/

    • AmandaM February 25, 2015 at 17:32 #

      Do you know what the name of the Facebook group is? I’d like to join.

  2. lizditz January 14, 2015 at 19:47 #

    This person decided to spoof Rivera. Here’s what happened.

    “I made a recovery story for my child, based on so many others which I had read, I felt bad doing it as I do not like to pretend but it was for the sole purpose of finding a greater truth.”

    “I thought that surely this can’t be, I was sure this would not be shared on the CD Autism page. Sadly on 4th Jan at 14:41pm, 9 minutes after I received the email, Kerri Rivera revealed my story with great enthusiasm as Recovery No 163. The post as of today 11th Jan 2015 has 378 likes, with 80 comments. Not one question of Verification, just joy and enthusiasm and blind belief.”

    “I have proved both to her and myself that the recovery stories can not be trusted. I have continued to study the facts and claims behind the CD Protocol and MMS as well as the huge industry which has been created around the numerous products and treatment being promoted and sold to parents of Autistic children. My findings are not good, indeed they are dark and deeply disturbing, but they are for another day, if you still believe, if you still do not question the motives behind the CD Protocol, I can say no more.”

    http://saulniercamaut.tumblr.com/

    • Eugene February 19, 2015 at 15:09 #

      Its true many just spread stories which they read without indepth study. So I did that study on MMS , its biological functioning etc for a period of time.,Then I made it. Used it extensively . Then gave it to others that were sick. Only positive results.
      Many people who don’t do a small study , over use or over dose and can get nausea and or a running tummy.
      This is because overdose causes many toxins will be released and the body wants those out. So they needed to reduce the dose.

      You never want to feel sick. Its spelled out clearly , but my experience is people don’t read properly.
      This MMS was given free to the world to make , each and every person him or herself. You dont need to buy it.
      . I never bought any. I made it myself and gave it to many people. FREE . All cases I gave it to were resolved 100%

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) February 19, 2015 at 17:14 #

        Right, it cures everything and never has any adverse reactions.

        Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And all we get are people on the internet making extraordinary claims.

      • Science Mom February 19, 2015 at 19:22 #

        Many people who don’t do a small study , over use or over dose and can get nausea and or a running tummy.
        This is because overdose causes many toxins will be released and the body wants those out. So they needed to reduce the dose.

        Oh how very biological of you Eugene but then again, people who bleach themselves or their children can’t be expected to be very bright or ethical for that matter.

    • John Greg March 1, 2015 at 16:48 #

      lizditz, hello. Unfortunately, your action proved nothing at all, except that you are willing to shamefully lie & deceive in order to produce a desired result. Same as the powerful and unaccountable who are pushing this huge nationwide campaign mis-using millions of dollars of taxpayers’ money against a tiny, tiny little chemical, which if people insist on calling it bleach, then by their own “scientific” logic, they MUST label table salt also as a “bleach”.–Both simple molecules, with one atom of chlorine. Whether you personally think the chemical works or not, or if you have seen Daniel’s interview & can possibly conclude that this sweet man deserves any jail time, you DO see the much more troubling & sinister big picture here, don’t you? Again, I’m sorry that you purposely misled Mrs Rivera, and then amazingly are turning around & now accusing her for believing you. Maybe it’s true, no one can be believed anymore. Not even you. Good job. Any other ideas to help shoot down loving people who are devoting their time & energies to make a better world?

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) March 1, 2015 at 17:28 #

        Well most of this is the same old tired defenses of MMS. Most.

        “against a tiny, tiny little chemical”

        That’s new. Pretty silly, if you ask me. Seriously, trying to garner sympathy or a “tiny, tiny chemical”?

        You dodge. I bring the discussion back to the topic: the criticism is towards the people who sell, promote, profit from this “tiny, tiny chemical”. And you know that. Why this diversion? It just makes you look the fool.

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) March 1, 2015 at 17:38 #

        Let’s see.

        1) “it’s not a bleach”

        What do you call a chemical that is used in industry to remove color from fabrics? (hint, even they call it a bleach).

        2) put “science” in scare quotes.

        Sorry if following an actual logical approach to this leads to a conclusion you dislike. We can go emotional too, just as you did. This chemical is being used abusively on disabled children. Oh, wait, that was logical and correct, not emotional.

        3) “simple molecules”

        Who cares if they are simple molecules? Doesn’t mean they work or don’t cause harm.

        4) ” Whether you personally think the chemical works or not”

        Actually, it isn’t on us to prove it works. It’s on people like you. And prove, not “I have a testimonial from someone”. Proof.

        5) Daniel’s interview & can possibly conclude that this sweet man deserves any jail time,”

        Well, let’s not put sweet people in jail, even when they break the law?

        6) ” Same as the powerful and unaccountable who are pushing this huge nationwide campaign ”

        That’s interesting. I’m powerful? And unaccountable? How about this: I’m the parent of an autistic kid and I don’t like seeing autistic kids abused by charlatans who sell fake medicine which makes the kids sick.

        7) “Again, I’m sorry that you purposely misled Mrs Rivera”

        Are you talking about the person who demonstrated that Kerri Rivera’s testimonials are unchecked? First, don’t use “you”. No one here did that, least of all Liz. Second, what do you have to say about the fact that the testimonials are worthess?

        8) “loving people”

        Yeah, if someone on the internet says someone is “loving”, that person should be allowed to get away with breaking the law and selling a fake medicine to “treat” disabled children by dislodging their intestinal linings?

      • Haxabja March 1, 2015 at 22:25 #

        In addition to selling MMS, which only does harm , see … http://www.bancdmms.com/#!cd-autism/cv6d , the “sweet man” was also selling “black-salve”, a.k.a. “cansema”, which has been known to remove part , or all, of peoples noses, see … http://archderm.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=479092 .
        The “sweet man” is currently reproducing pictures of his school-age daughter on the internet to obtain donations , unnecessarily stigmatising her in the process, so the “sweet man’s” lack of consideration for others includes his own children. Question: why did the “sweet man” need to ask the general-public for donations , rather than ask his thousands of satisfied-customers who he has cured of AIDs , Autism , Cancer, etc . Answer : his past customers are unsatisfied or dead from the disease he allegedly cured them of .

        BTW did know forgers and shills have been employed in the defense of the “sweet man” , see …
        Mountaineer’s-flag … http://imageshack.com/a/img903/9076/Rs162G.jpg
        Skydiver’s message board … http://imageshack.com/a/img910/802/nOCiYk.jpg
        Stretch-limousine … http://imageshack.com/a/img910/2346/JTnNWU.jpg
        French lady shill … http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9563/aHKcZK.jpg

    • ashley white August 21, 2018 at 02:43 #

      So the person LIES and then blames Kerri for believing her as being honest? Sad sick world. Kerri is an angel and IS CURING people that aren’t liars but truthful grateful families whose children have gotten their lives back…but you wouldn’t know because you haven’t researched it yourself. Great job spreading awful.

      • Sullivan (Matt Carey) September 7, 2018 at 22:37 #

        Kerri Rivera is a scam artist who promotes an abusive fake treatment of disabled children.

        Understand that–MMS is abuse. She’s pushing it. She is responsible for the harm and the suffering that is caused.

      • doritmi September 7, 2018 at 22:40 #

        Selling industrial strength bleach to be used on children isn’t my idea of an angel. Ms. Rivera makes money from putting children through abuse and at risk. To remind you, she tells us the children subjected to her treatment will have high fever, vomiting, and worse.

  3. lilady January 14, 2015 at 20:59 #

    Orac’s post today is about the founder of Generation Rescue, J. B. Handley. Handley posted on Age of Autism about the “treatments” he has inflicted on his autistic child, including MMS.

    There are many testimonials about the effectiveness of this industrial bleach to “recover” autistic children…including the testimonials from two of AoA “journalists”:

    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/01/14/the-return-of-j-b-handley/

    • doritmi September 7, 2018 at 22:42 #

      It just hurts to see a post from you. I miss you, Lilady.

  4. reissd January 14, 2015 at 21:28 #

    I’m embarrassed for the person who made that last motion.

    And thanks for telling us about this case.

  5. Haxabja January 28, 2015 at 12:28 #

    Re : ” … I’d want a real attorney if I were a part of this group …”

    There is a fund-raiser called the “mmsdefensefund” to pay for lawyers for Louis Daniel Smith et al , you can sign a petition for removal of the “mmsdefensefund” here … https://www.change.org/p/gofundme-com-gofundme-com-should-stop-hosting-the-fund-raiser-called-the-mms-defense-fund

  6. Narad February 13, 2015 at 02:45 #

    Delong and Tammy Olson finally pled guilty last December, after failing to sever their trial from Smith’s on the basis that he could then provide exculpatory evidence (PDF). Chris Olson had been flipped by the feds and copped a plea earlier.

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) February 13, 2015 at 05:39 #

      thanks for that. I was wondering how that was progressing. Mr. Smith is representing himself and his arguments so far are less than impressive.

      • Narad February 13, 2015 at 06:47 #

        It appears that all sentencing is belayed until the outcome of Smith’s trial. He has a backup attorney of record, Terence Michael Ryan.

        I just blew $3.10 of my remaining free PACER quarter to do up the docket of ID 59169 (and it turns out that I only needed 392–506 (the rest should appear shortly). The overall case encompasses (at least) IDs 59168–59172.

        I’ll issue the same plea as always: If you’re going to pay for this stuff, install RECAP. And everybody gets $15 a month gratis.

      • Narad February 13, 2015 at 06:54 #

        That should have been 342 to 506.

      • Narad February 13, 2015 at 07:04 #

        In particular, #261 (and, en passant, #275) looks like it might be a riot. But #324 (PDF) is gangbusters: he wants to change the seating arrangements.

  7. Haxabja February 18, 2015 at 05:39 #

    Narad wrote ” he [Daniel Smith] wants to change the seating arrangements”.

    Sounds like rearranging the deck-chairs on the Titanic :¬)

    BTW

    Having failed to find a legal loophole after years of looking, Daniel Smith is now petitioning to have one created : he demands that congress …
    ” Redefine overbroad definitions of ‘a drug’ under the Food Drug and Cosmetic Act ” , see … https://www.change.org/p/call-on-congress-to-investigate-and-impeach-corrupt-doj-attorneys-and-federal-judges-standbydaniel-com

  8. Haxabja February 19, 2015 at 16:34 #

    Eugene wrote on February 19, 2015 at 15:09
    “I did that study on MMS , its biological functioning etc for a period of time.,Then I made it. Used it extensively . Then gave it to others that were sick …. over use or over dose and can get nausea and or a running tummy.
    This is because overdose causes many toxins will be released and the body wants those out”

    You didn’t study hard enough Eugene : so-called MMS, which is sodium chlorite, does not cause “toxins” to be released if consumed , it is itself toxic , see …
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1569035/
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8290712

    So the increased symptoms with increasing dose that you have incorrectly been told by MMS-pushers is evidence of efficacy , is in-reality evidence you have poisoned yourself or others.

    BTW while you’re studying the data about sodium chlorite on http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ,
    see … https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474471/ , which shows sodium chlorite , ( a.k.a. “MMS”) , does not cause, or cure, or prevent cancer in cancer-prone mice. MMS creator Jim Humble has claimed “MMS will cure cancer”. [ In a 2012 Jim also claimed he could make gold , see http://www.zfaa.org , why don’t you buy a copy of his book , only $99 , or is there a limit to your credulity Eugene ? ].

  9. SirGalahad March 15, 2015 at 16:18 #

    Anyone reading about the MMS controversy for the first time will immediately realise that someone is lying.

    Either this is a dangerous industrial bleach that people are persuaded to pour down the throats of innocent children, and then lie about positive effects, or it’s an effective cure for a number of serious diseases, with few or no side-effects if used as directed.

    Anyone who still has an open mind on the topic should watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrwZN1cPfX8 of a successful MMS trial in Uganda, organised by the Red Cross, in which over 150 malaria victims were cured, a trial which the Red Cross later denied had ever taken place, in spite of the video being introduced by a Red Cross representative. In addition, weeks and months after the completion of the test, Klaas Proesmans, the narrator of the video, did everything he could to keep the results secret. Note: Proesmans is the Founder and CEO of the “Water Reference Center” which is affiliated with the Red Cross.

    After watching the video, the critical thinker will have to decide which is more likely, that
    A the video is a fake
    Or
    B for some reason the Red Cross does not want to be associated with a cure for malaria and as a result is lying to protect the profits of pharmaceutical companies.

    If you still think MMS is a scam, you might also want to look at some testimonies from MMS users – https://www.youtube.com/user/MMStestimonials – and wonder why they would lie about such a thing.

    Please – do you own research.

    • Sullivan (Matt Carey) March 15, 2015 at 23:19 #

      I have done my own research. That’s how I found that the people promoting this “therapy” lie.

      They say it isn’t a bleach. It is.

      They say it can not interact with tissue, that somehow it only interacts with pathogens and heavy metals and the like. It clearly does interact with tissue.

      They claim that disabled children pass worms after using MMS enemas and yet even they admit that when real parasitologists test these “worms” they aren’t worms.

      Shall we go on?

      Let’s.

      They claim that this is benign to humans and yet tell people to up the dose until they are sickened. This is then sold as being good for you as a Herxheimer reaction.

      Yes someone is lying. And making money. And they are the same people.

    • Haxabja March 15, 2015 at 23:50 #

      The Answer is “A” : The 2012 MMS Malaria trial video made in Uganda was exposed as a fake in 2013 , see … http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/2013/05/fake-and-unethical-trial-video-claims-miracle-mineral-solution-cures-malaria/ . The Red Cross were scammed into taking part in what was a publicity-stunt to sell MMS as a cure-all in the developed world.

      Re: Why testimonials “why they would lie “?. Some testimonials are from people who have been lucky enough to have spontaneous-remission who mistakenly believe MMS is responsible … http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spontaneous_remission . Some are misdiagnosis, ( they never had the disease in first place ) , some are in denial, ( they still have the disease but say they don’t ), and some are paid shills , ( MMS-pushers do use shills , see … http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9563/aHKcZK.jpg ).

    • Haxabja March 15, 2015 at 23:53 #

      The Answer is “A” : The 2012 MMS Malaria trial video made in Uganda was exposed as a fake in 2013 , see … http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/2013/05/fake-and-unethical-trial-video-claims-miracle-mineral-solution-cures-malaria/ . The Red Cross were scammed into taking part in what was a publicity-stunt to sell MMS as a cure-all in the developed world.

      Re: Testimonials “why they would lie “?. Some testimonials are from people who have been lucky enough to have spontaneous-remission who mistakenly believe MMS is responsible … http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spontaneous_remission . Some are misdiagnosis, ( they never had the disease in first place ) , some are in denial, ( they still have the disease but say they don’t ), and some are paid shills , ( MMS-pushers do use shills , see … http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9563/aHKcZK.jpg ).

    • Helena May 12, 2015 at 21:08 #

      MMS WORKED FOR ME. STARTED USING IT before KNOWING BREAST CANCER RETURNED (3RD TIME AS METASTASIZED IN RIB). DIDN’T JUST CURE CANCER. ALSO GOT RID OF ARTHRITIS. AND MORE. WHAT PROVE IS REQUIRED?

      • Lawrence May 12, 2015 at 22:23 #

        How about something better than CAPITALIZATION!

  10. Haxabja May 30, 2015 at 07:54 #

    The verdict on the Louis Daniel Smith “MMS” case is in, see … http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/seller-miracle-mineral-solution-convicted-marketing-toxic-chemical-miracle-cure

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